Tyler Walker
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Supported a comment by Rory G on
Engage East Harbour
8 months, 3 weeks ago
Supported a comment by Aaron Ames on
Engage East Harbour
8 months, 4 weeks ago
Aaron Ames
Please prioritize green space and add trees. We dont need more endless concrete. And make it walkable.
Please prioritize green space and add trees. We dont need more endless concrete. And make it walkable.
Supported a comment by Cairns Deleway on
Engage East Harbour
8 months, 4 weeks ago
Cairns Deleway
Maybe something emulating Borough market in London can exist at east harbour station (as borough is also underneath a junction of a railroad). The marketplace could be underneath the Ontario line overpass and be an all-in -one marketplace of greenery, arts, clothing, music, and food! There are many smaller format retailers selling vintage clothing and doing pop-up markets in the summer with mixed fare such as live music, food events and cultural events. Many of these organizers are on social media and connecting to young audiences, but we also see many pop-up events catering to everyone in the summer in areas like vacant parking lots. This kind of contribution would create a vibrant public realm/walkable district and also be a contribution to the community.
Maybe something emulating Borough market in London can exist at east harbour station (as borough is also underneath a junction of a railroad). The marketplace could be underneath the Ontario line overpass and be an all-in -one marketplace of greenery, arts, clothing, music, and food! There are many smaller format retailers selling vintage clothing and doing pop-up markets in the summer with mixed fare such as live music, food events and cultural events. Many of these organizers are on social media and connecting to young audiences, but we also see many pop-up events catering to everyone in the summer in areas like vacant parking lots. This kind of contribution would create a vibrant public realm/walkable district and also be a contribution to the community.
Supported a comment by Matthew Rosenberg on
Engage East Harbour
8 months, 4 weeks ago
Matthew Rosenberg
As someone who had the pleasure of visiting the Soap Factory while it was owned by First Gulf, I am of the opinion that, at the least, that building should unequivocally be retained. It will anchor the community and give it both uniqueness and historical relevance. Between the grand column structures on the ground floor, and throughout the building, as well as the rooftop patio space with amazing views of Toronto, I believe that a final vision similar to that of KPMB’s architectural rendering which proposed retaining the building in situ, with additional storeys floating above in shifted volumes, is an absolute must. We'll be kicking ourselves decades from now if we let this thing see a wrecking ball.
As someone who had the pleasure of visiting the Soap Factory while it was owned by First Gulf, I am of the opinion that, at the least, that building should unequivocally be retained. It will anchor the community and give it both uniqueness and historical relevance. Between the grand column structures on the ground floor, and throughout the building, as well as the rooftop patio space with amazing views of Toronto, I believe that a final vision similar to that of KPMB’s architectural rendering which proposed retaining the building in situ, with additional storeys floating above in shifted volumes, is an absolute must. We'll be kicking ourselves decades from now if we let this thing see a wrecking ball.
Supported a comment by Paul F on
Engage East Harbour
9 months ago
Paul F
You need to focus on the at grade portion of the development - public realm, retail formats, etc. Far too many mixed use developments in Toronto feature anonymous, large format retail and podiums that lack personality or any defining character. Focusing on retail that includes smaller format, varied ceiling heights (the City’s retail standards create standard retail), architectural variation across small sections of retail, etc. Look to existing, mature and successful neighbourhoods for inspiration, not suburban style development in urban areas like East Bayfront or newer developments along Yonge St. Focus on creating a neighbourhood, not a collection of buildings.
You need to focus on the at grade portion of the development - public realm, retail formats, etc. Far too many mixed use developments in Toronto feature anonymous, large format retail and podiums that lack personality or any defining character. Focusing on retail that includes smaller format, varied ceiling heights (the City’s retail standards create standard retail), architectural variation across small sections of retail, etc. Look to existing, mature and successful neighbourhoods for inspiration, not suburban style development in urban areas like East Bayfront or newer developments along Yonge St. Focus on creating a neighbourhood, not a collection of buildings.
Supported a comment by Christien Veroni on
Engage East Harbour
9 months ago
Christien Veroni
Please look at Liberty village and city place as post industrial case studies of what NOT TO DO! There needs to be retail that connects people to the neighborhood. Culturally recognizing the industrial heritage with a look forward including public spaces, green spaces, and transit. KEEP THE HERITAGE COMPONENTS ALIVE! DON’T TEAR IT ALL DOWN.
Please look at Liberty village and city place as post industrial case studies of what NOT TO DO! There needs to be retail that connects people to the neighborhood. Culturally recognizing the industrial heritage with a look forward including public spaces, green spaces, and transit. KEEP THE HERITAGE COMPONENTS ALIVE! DON’T TEAR IT ALL DOWN.
Supported a comment by Bruce Davidson on
Engage East Harbour
9 months ago
Bruce Davidson
pervasive frequent public transport bike lanes, free bike-parking stations lots of green space
pervasive frequent public transport bike lanes, free bike-parking stations lots of green space
Supported a comment by Rory G on
Engage East Harbour
9 months, 2 weeks ago
Rory G
This is one of the last blank canvases we have downtown and the East Harbour Team should look to where we have made mistakes in the past. Liberty is soulless and oriented around a parking lot, which is a mistake hard to remedy. The office buildings around cheery beach look nice but there is nothing warm or inviting about them or the area in between them. It’s also dead on the the weekends making it hard to attract businesses. You should think about how you can create an environment at the street level that is not going to be designed around glassed, box like retailer spaces dominated by chains like the rest of the city. Think about maximizing green space and making the streets feel more like Queen west or King west - less glass more brick, stone and wood. Thinking about the after work crowd that don’t want to relax at a chain (Jack Astor’s, Boston Pizza) and something more like a pub that has patio space in the summer and that is in the sunlight. Think about the weekends and what would attract people there. It’s a big challenge but please use the mistakes the city has made to guide you and the great streets the city has to offer inspire you
This is one of the last blank canvases we have downtown and the East Harbour Team should look to where we have made mistakes in the past. Liberty is soulless and oriented around a parking lot, which is a mistake hard to remedy. The office buildings around cheery beach look nice but there is nothing warm or inviting about them or the area in between them. It’s also dead on the the weekends making it hard to attract businesses. You should think about how you can create an environment at the street level that is not going to be designed around glassed, box like retailer spaces dominated by chains like the rest of the city. Think about maximizing green space and making the streets feel more like Queen west or King west - less glass more brick, stone and wood. Thinking about the after work crowd that don’t want to relax at a chain (Jack Astor’s, Boston Pizza) and something more like a pub that has patio space in the summer and that is in the sunlight. Think about the weekends and what would attract people there. It’s a big challenge but please use the mistakes the city has made to guide you and the great streets the city has to offer inspire you
Supported a comment by Oliver Turner on
Engage East Harbour
9 months, 2 weeks ago
Oliver Turner
Parks, restaurants, cafes and a grocery store will all attract people to the area and inject life and local energy into the new development. Do not repeat city place, where uninteresting, chain stores and fast food did not create a culture people wanted to stay in (initially they all headed north to Queen/King).
Parks, restaurants, cafes and a grocery store will all attract people to the area and inject life and local energy into the new development. Do not repeat city place, where uninteresting, chain stores and fast food did not create a culture people wanted to stay in (initially they all headed north to Queen/King).
Supported a comment by Lester Brown on
Engage East Harbour
10 months ago
Lester Brown
Green space, public access to Lake
Green space, public access to Lake
Supported a comment by Elle draper on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Elle draper
Integrating arts and culture into the public realm will make East Harbour feel less stuffy and more of a destination
Integrating arts and culture into the public realm will make East Harbour feel less stuffy and more of a destination
Supported a comment by David Green on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
David Green
Build a huge park which will attract people from all over the city and tourists from all over the world
Build a huge park which will attract people from all over the city and tourists from all over the world
Supported a comment by Jason Paris on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Jason Paris
Grocery stores. Maintaining the soap factory to anchor the community to its history.
Grocery stores. Maintaining the soap factory to anchor the community to its history.
Supported a comment by Shelagh T. on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Shelagh T.
How to prevent another wall of condos being built next to the lakefront.
How to prevent another wall of condos being built next to the lakefront.
Supported a comment by Rebecca Tiffany on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Rebecca Tiffany
This should be built planning for complete, separated, appealing bike infrastructure and safe, comfortable pedestrian transit space connected to public transit so that it's more appealing to walk/bike/use public transit than to drive a car here.
This should be built planning for complete, separated, appealing bike infrastructure and safe, comfortable pedestrian transit space connected to public transit so that it's more appealing to walk/bike/use public transit than to drive a car here.
Supported a comment by Torin Wagner on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Torin Wagner
I respect your experiences, but this is not outstanding by any class measure of what makes cities 'great' in my own opinion. Every city has YMCA's or corktown commons, but many residents are single and don't have children as well so I'd like to see more out of the box ideas there.
I respect your experiences, but this is not outstanding by any class measure of what makes cities 'great' in my own opinion. Every city has YMCA's or corktown commons, but many residents are single and don't have children as well so I'd like to see more out of the box ideas there.
Supported a comment by Jason Paris on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Jason Paris
Cadillac Fairview just doesn't get it. Saving the soap factory would at least be a gesture that they understand why people want this area (THEIR AREA) to be successful.
Cadillac Fairview just doesn't get it. Saving the soap factory would at least be a gesture that they understand why people want this area (THEIR AREA) to be successful.
Supported a comment by GERRY BROWN on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
GERRY BROWN
The project moved in the wrong direction when Cadillac Fairview bought it.
The project moved in the wrong direction when Cadillac Fairview bought it.
Supported a comment by Paula Virany on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Paula Virany
The destruction of the Unilever Soap Factory has made this site much uglier and robbed it of its initial charm before Cadillac Fairview brought the project. Government officials talk about the Manhattanization of Toronto. But Manhattan has old brownstones, historic museums (the Frick, the Met, and simple things like the Meat Packing District) that give Manhattan a feeling of history, character and soul. It is a sad failure that the Unilever Soap Factory is not being kept in the design in some way -- even if it is just a facade that is kept. The original plans had charm. Cadillac Fairview's plans lack design and instead have a lot of cement. I understand that Cadillac Fairview wants to maximize profit -- that's okay -- I believe in the free market. But if we continue to build without history and charm will we achieve the Manhattanization of Toronto? Or the Calcutta-ization of Toronto? Even modern Kolkata is 40% slum. Don't throw out history. It is the author of the charm and soul of a city. Shame on Cadillac-Fairview.
The destruction of the Unilever Soap Factory has made this site much uglier and robbed it of its initial charm before Cadillac Fairview brought the project. Government officials talk about the Manhattanization of Toronto. But Manhattan has old brownstones, historic museums (the Frick, the Met, and simple things like the Meat Packing District) that give Manhattan a feeling of history, character and soul. It is a sad failure that the Unilever Soap Factory is not being kept in the design in some way -- even if it is just a facade that is kept. The original plans had charm. Cadillac Fairview's plans lack design and instead have a lot of cement. I understand that Cadillac Fairview wants to maximize profit -- that's okay -- I believe in the free market. But if we continue to build without history and charm will we achieve the Manhattanization of Toronto? Or the Calcutta-ization of Toronto? Even modern Kolkata is 40% slum. Don't throw out history. It is the author of the charm and soul of a city. Shame on Cadillac-Fairview.
Supported a comment by Roger B. on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Roger B.
I'm going to be unpopular and NIMBY... but I just moved from living beside a Toronto housing project and it did nothing but bring down the value of the area. No cultural, social, economic contributions... just noise, unkept homes, frequent fire alarms, etc. etc. Homelessness (and under housing) is a serious problem in TO. IF EH is planning to become residential (which I'm not thrilled about) and IF they are going to include affordable housing (which ethically is probably the right thing to do)... there should be a LOT of attention paid to make sure that it's done in a balanced/mixed way and doesn't become a blight on the Leslieville/Riverdale area.
I'm going to be unpopular and NIMBY... but I just moved from living beside a Toronto housing project and it did nothing but bring down the value of the area. No cultural, social, economic contributions... just noise, unkept homes, frequent fire alarms, etc. etc. Homelessness (and under housing) is a serious problem in TO. IF EH is planning to become residential (which I'm not thrilled about) and IF they are going to include affordable housing (which ethically is probably the right thing to do)... there should be a LOT of attention paid to make sure that it's done in a balanced/mixed way and doesn't become a blight on the Leslieville/Riverdale area.
Supported a comment by Michael Oliphant on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Michael Oliphant
One out-of-the box idea, and two more serious ones: Since EH is right at the conflux of the MGT and the Don Valley Trail, include a raised running loop around the whole site that connects with those two trails. Would bring runners from all over the city, and be great for the office workers in the buildings as well to get exercise. There are interesting examples of these throughout the world. More serious: not just affordable housing but supportive housing as well-connect with the great east end organizations working with gender-based violence survivors (adults and children) to provide scattered apartments throughout the residential part of the site, including support services. There is a huge need for this type of housing, especially post-pandemic. And, like others have said, include some of the industrial heritage of the site in the plan. At a bare minimum the water tower should stay, as it's iconic. But also please keep some elements of the existing building structures as these are what provide the site with some authenticity and interest.
One out-of-the box idea, and two more serious ones: Since EH is right at the conflux of the MGT and the Don Valley Trail, include a raised running loop around the whole site that connects with those two trails. Would bring runners from all over the city, and be great for the office workers in the buildings as well to get exercise. There are interesting examples of these throughout the world. More serious: not just affordable housing but supportive housing as well-connect with the great east end organizations working with gender-based violence survivors (adults and children) to provide scattered apartments throughout the residential part of the site, including support services. There is a huge need for this type of housing, especially post-pandemic. And, like others have said, include some of the industrial heritage of the site in the plan. At a bare minimum the water tower should stay, as it's iconic. But also please keep some elements of the existing building structures as these are what provide the site with some authenticity and interest.
Supported a comment by Paula Virany on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Paula Virany
Will there be enough doctors and hospital beds? Is anyone taking care of the 200 to 250,000 new people the Feds are bringing into Toronto via immigration each year? I know they want 1.5 million nationally in the next 3 years. Are we building the infrastructure? Schools? etc.
Will there be enough doctors and hospital beds? Is anyone taking care of the 200 to 250,000 new people the Feds are bringing into Toronto via immigration each year? I know they want 1.5 million nationally in the next 3 years. Are we building the infrastructure? Schools? etc.
Supported a comment by Roger B. on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 1 week ago
Roger B.
When did residential get introduced? I thought this was a commercial project?!? As a near by resident I'm concerned about the number of people (and infrastructure thereof) in the area. I specifically moved away from King West towards Leslieville for a quieter/calmer vibe. the commercial EH I thought would be OK as it represented 'day time' traffic... but if you've got 1000's of more residents... will there be extra TTC, crosswalks, parks, dog-parks, etc. etc. etc. To address demand.
When did residential get introduced? I thought this was a commercial project?!? As a near by resident I'm concerned about the number of people (and infrastructure thereof) in the area. I specifically moved away from King West towards Leslieville for a quieter/calmer vibe. the commercial EH I thought would be OK as it represented 'day time' traffic... but if you've got 1000's of more residents... will there be extra TTC, crosswalks, parks, dog-parks, etc. etc. etc. To address demand.
Supported a comment by Sandy W. on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Sandy W.
Public spaces and connectivity to the surrounding communities.
Public spaces and connectivity to the surrounding communities.
Supported a comment by Mimi Bernardo on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Mimi Bernardo
Perhaps less "office" space as the pandemic has highlighted that office space is really no longer as necessary as pre-pandemic times. Perhaps more retail, Community recreation (i.e. YMCA), affordable housing, a Museum focused on Toronto artifacts, another film studio, off leash dog park, Art studios/galleries, cafes, restaurants, etc
Perhaps less "office" space as the pandemic has highlighted that office space is really no longer as necessary as pre-pandemic times. Perhaps more retail, Community recreation (i.e. YMCA), affordable housing, a Museum focused on Toronto artifacts, another film studio, off leash dog park, Art studios/galleries, cafes, restaurants, etc
Supported a comment by Paul Leithwood on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Paul Leithwood
It is a rare opportunity to advance a "master-planned" block on this scale; please begin in the public realm/urban design phase to incorporate significant investment into sub-grade tree infrastructure for their initial establishment and long term growth. Hardscape infrastructure for trees should be appropriate and mindful of soil cell infrastructure, stormwater capture, 70cm + openings on tree pit covers, non-invasive irrigation systems, spacing of plantings, and removal of tree lighting to ensure a thriving canopy. Go above and beyond City of Toronto's Community Planning, Urban Design, and Urban Forestry requirements as they are proven insufficient. Additionally, MLA's will likely be limited in what they know about native tree establishment and growth in urban settings - especially if this is tender is awarded outside of the Province or Country. Seek strong arboricultural advisors to ensure the City and the district inherits tree assets that contribute more than cost.
It is a rare opportunity to advance a "master-planned" block on this scale; please begin in the public realm/urban design phase to incorporate significant investment into sub-grade tree infrastructure for their initial establishment and long term growth. Hardscape infrastructure for trees should be appropriate and mindful of soil cell infrastructure, stormwater capture, 70cm + openings on tree pit covers, non-invasive irrigation systems, spacing of plantings, and removal of tree lighting to ensure a thriving canopy. Go above and beyond City of Toronto's Community Planning, Urban Design, and Urban Forestry requirements as they are proven insufficient. Additionally, MLA's will likely be limited in what they know about native tree establishment and growth in urban settings - especially if this is tender is awarded outside of the Province or Country. Seek strong arboricultural advisors to ensure the City and the district inherits tree assets that contribute more than cost.
Supported a comment by Matthew C on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew C
It would be nice to see a major cultural institution be explored in soap factory plaza in the way that Broadway theatre in NYC is at times square for example.
It would be nice to see a major cultural institution be explored in soap factory plaza in the way that Broadway theatre in NYC is at times square for example.
Supported a comment by Matthew C on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew C
I am concerned that the 50,000 square feet of cultural space is not going to suit the demand in the right ways. It is important to establish a more clear definition of what that means and who it applies to; i.e. Cultural events and exhibition spaces are one thing, but that also is different from the need for maker-spaces or individual studio spaces which the city lacks and is also different from retail spaces open to the public like galleries and venues. Beyond just event spaces, try to think about cultural spaces and need for revenue generating creative industries in the office towers. Don't pool all of the creative uses in the 50,000 sq ft cultural space category as it could limit creative potential for the city and the vibrancy of the neighbourhood. The last thing I want defined is: What is culture? What categories does that entail? Culinary/food is considered culture, the arts are another portion, but so are small artisan shops, as well as non-conventional spots like a barber or tailor. Culture is now expanding its bounds and I wish there to be a more open definition of what cultural experiences could mean. If there are pilot projects in Toronto where we see live music on patios outside and inside cafes and restaurants, perhaps definition and expansion of cultural experience can be explored and intermingled. Maybe cultural space could be creatively maximized in these facets.
I am concerned that the 50,000 square feet of cultural space is not going to suit the demand in the right ways. It is important to establish a more clear definition of what that means and who it applies to; i.e. Cultural events and exhibition spaces are one thing, but that also is different from the need for maker-spaces or individual studio spaces which the city lacks and is also different from retail spaces open to the public like galleries and venues. Beyond just event spaces, try to think about cultural spaces and need for revenue generating creative industries in the office towers. Don't pool all of the creative uses in the 50,000 sq ft cultural space category as it could limit creative potential for the city and the vibrancy of the neighbourhood. The last thing I want defined is: What is culture? What categories does that entail? Culinary/food is considered culture, the arts are another portion, but so are small artisan shops, as well as non-conventional spots like a barber or tailor. Culture is now expanding its bounds and I wish there to be a more open definition of what cultural experiences could mean. If there are pilot projects in Toronto where we see live music on patios outside and inside cafes and restaurants, perhaps definition and expansion of cultural experience can be explored and intermingled. Maybe cultural space could be creatively maximized in these facets.
Supported a comment by Ameer Qaadri on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Ameer Qaadri
I am an animation student so I strongly resonate with this Cassidy. It's staggering because there are expected to be 50,000 employees on this site but I would like to know how us artists will be considered within that context of workers. We are employees who need space too!
I am an animation student so I strongly resonate with this Cassidy. It's staggering because there are expected to be 50,000 employees on this site but I would like to know how us artists will be considered within that context of workers. We are employees who need space too!
Supported a comment by Ameer Qaadri on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Ameer Qaadri
Themes I want discussed are plenty of artist studios, parks, open space, cool architecture and patios.
Themes I want discussed are plenty of artist studios, parks, open space, cool architecture and patios.
Supported a comment by Jason Paris on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Jason Paris
The fact that CF can't do this and won't do this says everything. They aren't building a successful neighbourhood, they are taking the path of least resistance.
The fact that CF can't do this and won't do this says everything. They aren't building a successful neighbourhood, they are taking the path of least resistance.
Supported a comment by Lester Brown on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 2 weeks ago
Lester Brown
We need to ensure adequate amounts of green space and that there are affordable units and social housing units. The City belongs to everybody.
We need to ensure adequate amounts of green space and that there are affordable units and social housing units. The City belongs to everybody.
Supported a comment by Paul Y on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 3 weeks ago
Paul Y
800 comments on Parks? Trees? Culture? Maybe . . . as a way to market this plan. It is not endorsed by our elected representatives or City planning staff. It will go forward as a Ministerial Zoning Order (see staff report - top of pg 2). LINK: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf The province is giving the developer a massive re-zoning and we/the City are left out. The consultants and developer are here short-term. We can take up valuable time asking about public space, affrdble housing, parks, trees and culture however, without the City planning process there are no agreements and no reasons I can see why a developer (partnered with the Premier) would spend on these extras. Cadillac Fairview (owned by the Teachers Pension Fund btw) will maximize profit for share holders regardless of what we add to this list of opinions. We have no power. And yes we have a huge affordability crisis in Toronto but from my experience living here since mid 80's simply building more condos has never resulted in affordability. Public funding (from development charges etc.) and/or development agreements have. Where I live, a family shelter was integrated into a condo because the Councillor and staff worked with the developer and made it a condition for approval. Will this developer funded consulting team figure out how to ensure the developer provides what the City planners and Elected reps would have demanded? Don't think so. Look at who has the power.
800 comments on Parks? Trees? Culture? Maybe . . . as a way to market this plan. It is not endorsed by our elected representatives or City planning staff. It will go forward as a Ministerial Zoning Order (see staff report - top of pg 2). LINK: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf The province is giving the developer a massive re-zoning and we/the City are left out. The consultants and developer are here short-term. We can take up valuable time asking about public space, affrdble housing, parks, trees and culture however, without the City planning process there are no agreements and no reasons I can see why a developer (partnered with the Premier) would spend on these extras. Cadillac Fairview (owned by the Teachers Pension Fund btw) will maximize profit for share holders regardless of what we add to this list of opinions. We have no power. And yes we have a huge affordability crisis in Toronto but from my experience living here since mid 80's simply building more condos has never resulted in affordability. Public funding (from development charges etc.) and/or development agreements have. Where I live, a family shelter was integrated into a condo because the Councillor and staff worked with the developer and made it a condition for approval. Will this developer funded consulting team figure out how to ensure the developer provides what the City planners and Elected reps would have demanded? Don't think so. Look at who has the power.
Supported a comment by Matthew Hill on
Engage East Harbour
10 months, 3 weeks ago
Matthew Hill
Hi, project will be stronger if the hertage industrial elements ofthe soap factory and the associated building just east of the soap factory are retained. You want a mix of new and old buildings. Clearing the site of these buildings will make the development a lot less interesting. Retaining the industrial heritage buildings will make the project stronger by creating visual interest.
Hi, project will be stronger if the hertage industrial elements ofthe soap factory and the associated building just east of the soap factory are retained. You want a mix of new and old buildings. Clearing the site of these buildings will make the development a lot less interesting. Retaining the industrial heritage buildings will make the project stronger by creating visual interest.
Supported a comment by david m on
Engage East Harbour
11 months ago
david m
the soap factory building must be preserved and incorporated into new architecture
the soap factory building must be preserved and incorporated into new architecture
Supported a comment by Julian Cappelli on
Engage East Harbour
11 months ago
Julian Cappelli
As a person with a severe disability I struggle to get around the city. I depend on others for mobility. Way too often there are inconsistencies in the neighborhood that makes it hard for me to navigate. Example, a utility pole in the middle of the sidewalk. This neighborhood should serve as a model for access for people with mobility issues
As a person with a severe disability I struggle to get around the city. I depend on others for mobility. Way too often there are inconsistencies in the neighborhood that makes it hard for me to navigate. Example, a utility pole in the middle of the sidewalk. This neighborhood should serve as a model for access for people with mobility issues
Supported a comment by Chris Barker on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 1 week ago
Chris Barker
There’s definitely not enough priority on protecting / retaining heritage structures. In most cases, a wall or 2 are kept and soon there won’t be anything left to show what Toronto was. In addition, many of the businesses lost as the buildings they’re in get demolished, can’t afford to relocate and pay the higher rent in new buildings
There’s definitely not enough priority on protecting / retaining heritage structures. In most cases, a wall or 2 are kept and soon there won’t be anything left to show what Toronto was. In addition, many of the businesses lost as the buildings they’re in get demolished, can’t afford to relocate and pay the higher rent in new buildings
Supported a comment by Stefan R on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 1 week ago
Stefan R
Retaining heritage structures.
Retaining heritage structures.
Supported a comment by Paul Klaassen on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Paul Klaassen
I'm frankly a little surprised that First Gulf or Great Gulf (whichever it was) was able to negotiate with the city and province for the billions in infrastructure changes based on the jobs that would come from the commercial development, then sell the property to a developer who changes the plan without those concessions needing to be renegotiated. Furthermore, I'm disappointed that we are planning to build at the heights being planned. The neighbourhood has condominium projects capping out at around 15 stories and this will dwarf all of those, changing the character in an unpleasing way. I can only hope that there is consideration given to adding value to the neighbourhood by providing spaces appropriate to businesses like grocery stores, dry cleaners, restaurants, cafes, medical and dental offices, bicycle stores and other such day to day necessities.
I'm frankly a little surprised that First Gulf or Great Gulf (whichever it was) was able to negotiate with the city and province for the billions in infrastructure changes based on the jobs that would come from the commercial development, then sell the property to a developer who changes the plan without those concessions needing to be renegotiated. Furthermore, I'm disappointed that we are planning to build at the heights being planned. The neighbourhood has condominium projects capping out at around 15 stories and this will dwarf all of those, changing the character in an unpleasing way. I can only hope that there is consideration given to adding value to the neighbourhood by providing spaces appropriate to businesses like grocery stores, dry cleaners, restaurants, cafes, medical and dental offices, bicycle stores and other such day to day necessities.
Supported a comment by Rob Hatton on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Rob Hatton
blame our provincial government, which has taken usurped planning powers from the city near any transit expansion.
blame our provincial government, which has taken usurped planning powers from the city near any transit expansion.
Supported a comment by Lucile N on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Lucile N
Keeping a height restrictions and making this a walkable more human size neighbourhood
Keeping a height restrictions and making this a walkable more human size neighbourhood
Supported a comment by John Muller on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 5 months ago
John Muller
Pedestrian and cyclist access should be the priority in planning the transportation aspects of the development.
Pedestrian and cyclist access should be the priority in planning the transportation aspects of the development.
Supported a comment by Tony Whitaker on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 5 months ago
Tony Whitaker
Residential uses should be for all and affordable housing allocation should follow City inclusive zoning guidelines. Residential buildings should be no taller than those in West Don Lands directly across the Don River. up to 65 storeys belong at Yonge and Bloor and in the downtown core.
Residential uses should be for all and affordable housing allocation should follow City inclusive zoning guidelines. Residential buildings should be no taller than those in West Don Lands directly across the Don River. up to 65 storeys belong at Yonge and Bloor and in the downtown core.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Marisa B
how can East Harbour advance indigenous reconciliation? All the project decks start with a land acknowledgement, but then there's no mention of indigenous engagement/involvement/services. Have you engaged this community? What about an indigenous cultura/commercial center? Priority for indigenous-owned businesses?
how can East Harbour advance indigenous reconciliation? All the project decks start with a land acknowledgement, but then there's no mention of indigenous engagement/involvement/services. Have you engaged this community? What about an indigenous cultura/commercial center? Priority for indigenous-owned businesses?
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1 year, 5 months ago
Jess Foran
When walking around streets of Europe past 5pm, one can not help but feel the spirit of the neighbourhood come to life when seeing families roam the streets and squares, wondering into cute shops or simply sitting on 'the Spanish steps.' East Harbour needs this European flare to it, to recenter how busy urban centres in North American can slow down and how streets can be built for *people* I would love to see ample seating areas, otherworldly concept stores, and prioritising unique experiences that aren't normally found in Toronto. I think tattoo parlours and cultural establishments should be seen just as important as bakeries and coffee shops. I want it to be people friendly with string lighting, vendors, late night food market places and a place of POP-ups. Pop-up stores allow the ability to try new concepts out, test ideas and create an ever-changing ecosystem for experiences. Experiences and people contribute to a city's identity and global competitiveness. 30 million tourists don't come to Toronto because they want to sit in a bank tower and check out 'economic development'. Visitors want to be a part of the city's soul, neighbourhoods are part of that. We need to think of this new commercial district as a neighbourhood, where Christmas markets can coexist alongside rush-hour crowds of workers. In thinking about how we 'build back better' after the pandemic, we HAVE to think CULTURE not commerce. Experiences in a city matter.
When walking around streets of Europe past 5pm, one can not help but feel the spirit of the neighbourhood come to life when seeing families roam the streets and squares, wondering into cute shops or simply sitting on 'the Spanish steps.' East Harbour needs this European flare to it, to recenter how busy urban centres in North American can slow down and how streets can be built for *people* I would love to see ample seating areas, otherworldly concept stores, and prioritising unique experiences that aren't normally found in Toronto. I think tattoo parlours and cultural establishments should be seen just as important as bakeries and coffee shops. I want it to be people friendly with string lighting, vendors, late night food market places and a place of POP-ups. Pop-up stores allow the ability to try new concepts out, test ideas and create an ever-changing ecosystem for experiences. Experiences and people contribute to a city's identity and global competitiveness. 30 million tourists don't come to Toronto because they want to sit in a bank tower and check out 'economic development'. Visitors want to be a part of the city's soul, neighbourhoods are part of that. We need to think of this new commercial district as a neighbourhood, where Christmas markets can coexist alongside rush-hour crowds of workers. In thinking about how we 'build back better' after the pandemic, we HAVE to think CULTURE not commerce. Experiences in a city matter.
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1 year, 5 months ago
D. Bowes
East Harbour will be able to sell itself as an attractive place to live and work only because of how close it is to the thriving mixed-rent high street on Queen St. East, where businesses that could never anchor a condo tower draw in the new homeowners and creatives that live in condo towers: it would be wonderful to see this formally acknowledged through a partnership between the local BIA's and the East Harbour team, so that the neighbourhood as a whole can be made greater than the "sum of parts". I'd like to see more presentation of metrics that demonstrate how the East Harbour and related development is driving the greater success of the community.
East Harbour will be able to sell itself as an attractive place to live and work only because of how close it is to the thriving mixed-rent high street on Queen St. East, where businesses that could never anchor a condo tower draw in the new homeowners and creatives that live in condo towers: it would be wonderful to see this formally acknowledged through a partnership between the local BIA's and the East Harbour team, so that the neighbourhood as a whole can be made greater than the "sum of parts". I'd like to see more presentation of metrics that demonstrate how the East Harbour and related development is driving the greater success of the community.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Marisa B
Please find a way to include some free/low-cost meeting and event space (indoor). Community groups and clubs are so important to civic life but the city provides no infrastructure and there are so few spaces available.
Please find a way to include some free/low-cost meeting and event space (indoor). Community groups and clubs are so important to civic life but the city provides no infrastructure and there are so few spaces available.
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1 year, 5 months ago
angelo troyo
Think of some the world's coolest neighbourhoods or district, learn what makes them intriguing and stand out and learn from that. I am tired of these repetitive, banal developments all over Toronto that have poor public realm and prioritise the wealthy. I want to see a development that will make me feel proud to be Torontonian and that will prioritise those people who make this city cool. Artists...
Think of some the world's coolest neighbourhoods or district, learn what makes them intriguing and stand out and learn from that. I am tired of these repetitive, banal developments all over Toronto that have poor public realm and prioritise the wealthy. I want to see a development that will make me feel proud to be Torontonian and that will prioritise those people who make this city cool. Artists...
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1 year, 5 months ago
Esther L
We need to focus on a uniqueness, to make it feel like an actual neighbourhood where people would want to enjoy coming to. A good mix of culture, creativity, green jobs, events and local small businesses will make this place be a welcome addition to our city.
We need to focus on a uniqueness, to make it feel like an actual neighbourhood where people would want to enjoy coming to. A good mix of culture, creativity, green jobs, events and local small businesses will make this place be a welcome addition to our city.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Esther L
Whole heartedly agree.
Whole heartedly agree.
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1 year, 5 months ago
D. Bowes
Partnership with the local businesses, commercial property owners, and BIA, who can help East Harbour become part of a wholistic neighbourhood, providing spaces for the unique businesses that can't or won't be viable in the brand new retail on the East Harbour site. East Harbour can't possibly be any good as a community if it becomes one with a view to being a "self-contained" neighbourhood: that would result in a bleak and soul-less place...just like Canary Wharf was for it's first decade or two of existence post-bankruptcy (I lived in London in the mid-2000's, and know first-hand how awful it was). With a bit of forward planning in collaboration with the thriving residential areas that currently surround the East Harbour site, East Harbour should be able to hit the ground running as a successful addition to the City. Don't repeat the shortsighted mistakes of the Canary Wharf developers who seemed to lack any understanding of how to develop with a view to neighbourhood planning for actual humans. They might have "won" by certain real estate metrics, but they could have made those same wins in a way that made Canary Wharf useful to real people a decade sooner than it was. Make this neighbourhood a win-win from the start. It's an outcome that it is within your grasp.
Partnership with the local businesses, commercial property owners, and BIA, who can help East Harbour become part of a wholistic neighbourhood, providing spaces for the unique businesses that can't or won't be viable in the brand new retail on the East Harbour site. East Harbour can't possibly be any good as a community if it becomes one with a view to being a "self-contained" neighbourhood: that would result in a bleak and soul-less place...just like Canary Wharf was for it's first decade or two of existence post-bankruptcy (I lived in London in the mid-2000's, and know first-hand how awful it was). With a bit of forward planning in collaboration with the thriving residential areas that currently surround the East Harbour site, East Harbour should be able to hit the ground running as a successful addition to the City. Don't repeat the shortsighted mistakes of the Canary Wharf developers who seemed to lack any understanding of how to develop with a view to neighbourhood planning for actual humans. They might have "won" by certain real estate metrics, but they could have made those same wins in a way that made Canary Wharf useful to real people a decade sooner than it was. Make this neighbourhood a win-win from the start. It's an outcome that it is within your grasp.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Esther L
Aim to be one of the world's most liveable and well-planned urban districts. With climate emergency there is emphasis on the next big 'green hub'. If thoughtfully planned I think this district can be the world's most sustainable and liveable business districts. Of course, arts/culture, neighbourhood identity, local businesses and people also have to be prioritized.
Aim to be one of the world's most liveable and well-planned urban districts. With climate emergency there is emphasis on the next big 'green hub'. If thoughtfully planned I think this district can be the world's most sustainable and liveable business districts. Of course, arts/culture, neighbourhood identity, local businesses and people also have to be prioritized.
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1 year, 5 months ago
nick white
DO NOT destroy the exsiting on site buildings and lower the height of the new towers you propose. Make more use of the public transportation station on your door step.
DO NOT destroy the exsiting on site buildings and lower the height of the new towers you propose. Make more use of the public transportation station on your door step.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Brian Hern
There’s been quite a lot of concern that this new development is going to feel too corporate and bland. It can be very hard to attract people to visit or stay in a central business district if there is nothing unique or edgy. I encourage you to think outside of the box and get creative with how to make this site a place where people want to stay or visit. Think about and study some of the most visited neighbourhoods in Toronto, like Kensington Market, the distillery, Queen West and learn what makes them so special in order to better design a place that doesnt feel so corporate and glossy.
There’s been quite a lot of concern that this new development is going to feel too corporate and bland. It can be very hard to attract people to visit or stay in a central business district if there is nothing unique or edgy. I encourage you to think outside of the box and get creative with how to make this site a place where people want to stay or visit. Think about and study some of the most visited neighbourhoods in Toronto, like Kensington Market, the distillery, Queen West and learn what makes them so special in order to better design a place that doesnt feel so corporate and glossy.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
While these concerns are appropriate, keep in mind that the residential density is not about creating beautiful spaces - it's about giving the developer $5 b worth of density to sell and about $800m worth of profit (yes an $800m gift! Merry Christmas) that can be realized quickly in the condo market - vs the expected slow uptake for commercial space. Getting back a few meeting spaces and park benches is total chump change - even a contribution to the GO station (how much can a GO station without parking cost, really?) is likely to be peanuts in comparison. The negative impact on traffic will outshine any 'mixed use' development benefits.
While these concerns are appropriate, keep in mind that the residential density is not about creating beautiful spaces - it's about giving the developer $5 b worth of density to sell and about $800m worth of profit (yes an $800m gift! Merry Christmas) that can be realized quickly in the condo market - vs the expected slow uptake for commercial space. Getting back a few meeting spaces and park benches is total chump change - even a contribution to the GO station (how much can a GO station without parking cost, really?) is likely to be peanuts in comparison. The negative impact on traffic will outshine any 'mixed use' development benefits.
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1 year, 5 months ago
jack green
Toronto these days is lacking depth. It appears that city building is centred on developers rather than citizens of the city. It's insular and doesn't help us. Development here, there is... so please make sure focusing on beauty, architecture, culture and people is put primary before any kind of boring chain coffee shop. Let me share a secret, it's not those in the tech industry and financial sectors that make cities alluring. Let's give opportunities to artists who are leaving Toronto to other cities for better opportunities.
Toronto these days is lacking depth. It appears that city building is centred on developers rather than citizens of the city. It's insular and doesn't help us. Development here, there is... so please make sure focusing on beauty, architecture, culture and people is put primary before any kind of boring chain coffee shop. Let me share a secret, it's not those in the tech industry and financial sectors that make cities alluring. Let's give opportunities to artists who are leaving Toronto to other cities for better opportunities.
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Geoffrey E
I come from UrbanToronto.ca, a website populated by planners, real estate agents, Toronto citizens and overall city building enthusiasts. A member of ours ,Alex Bozikovic, wrote an article on the globe and mail about East Harbour. Having looked at the meetings and the plans and reading over 90 comments of concern residents on that article, I think the development team should take a serious look at it. These are 90 comments - whether negating or not, are important to recognise that the masses expect better from this development. Read the article and listen to some of the comments! https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-can-a-master-planned-neighbourhood-be-a-place-worth-visiting-with/ I also strongly urge the team to read/summarise comments written on the UrbanToronto East Harbour thread - There are overall 66 pages of overall discussion and these concerns and ideas on social media sites and articles also count as feedback and cannot be ignored. here is the link to the Urban Toronto forum: https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-east-harbour-214-2m-65s-cadillac-fairview-adamson.18405/
I come from UrbanToronto.ca, a website populated by planners, real estate agents, Toronto citizens and overall city building enthusiasts. A member of ours ,Alex Bozikovic, wrote an article on the globe and mail about East Harbour. Having looked at the meetings and the plans and reading over 90 comments of concern residents on that article, I think the development team should take a serious look at it. These are 90 comments - whether negating or not, are important to recognise that the masses expect better from this development. Read the article and listen to some of the comments! https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-can-a-master-planned-neighbourhood-be-a-place-worth-visiting-with/ I also strongly urge the team to read/summarise comments written on the UrbanToronto East Harbour thread - There are overall 66 pages of overall discussion and these concerns and ideas on social media sites and articles also count as feedback and cannot be ignored. here is the link to the Urban Toronto forum: https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-east-harbour-214-2m-65s-cadillac-fairview-adamson.18405/
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Alex Lo
Adamson is someone you can keep for sure but maybe add a few more architects to the team so that there is a more well-rounded, forward thinking and creative approach to architecture. In a major development like this, I am shocked that there aren't a team of architects from multiple different firms. I am not trying to insult Adamson or relay any disrespect, but I do think we should innovate here.. and just one voice contributing to built form (even if it is a team of architects at Adamson) is not enough for such a development considering so many of their developments look like repetition of each other in London, NYC or Chicago.
Adamson is someone you can keep for sure but maybe add a few more architects to the team so that there is a more well-rounded, forward thinking and creative approach to architecture. In a major development like this, I am shocked that there aren't a team of architects from multiple different firms. I am not trying to insult Adamson or relay any disrespect, but I do think we should innovate here.. and just one voice contributing to built form (even if it is a team of architects at Adamson) is not enough for such a development considering so many of their developments look like repetition of each other in London, NYC or Chicago.
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Alex Lo
We deserve better architecture in the city. I am tired of generic blue/green-glass towers that all look identical. Please ensure there is unique cladding, and focus on how towers can look very different from each other. In downtown and Yonge- Eglinton all of the buildings look virtually the same. Please do not repeat this lazy thinking when it comes to design - please hire more diverse architects, don't just use the same one for all of the buildings. See design as something that uplifts us and enhances our sense of place. Visitors will be drawn to a district with out of the box design thinking.
We deserve better architecture in the city. I am tired of generic blue/green-glass towers that all look identical. Please ensure there is unique cladding, and focus on how towers can look very different from each other. In downtown and Yonge- Eglinton all of the buildings look virtually the same. Please do not repeat this lazy thinking when it comes to design - please hire more diverse architects, don't just use the same one for all of the buildings. See design as something that uplifts us and enhances our sense of place. Visitors will be drawn to a district with out of the box design thinking.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Erin Atkinson
The subway should be underground
The subway should be underground
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1 year, 5 months ago
nick white
Build low rise residential units afordable to local residents. Plenty of space for an arts comunity, easy access to a revitalised Don River and Portlands. NO HI RISE CONOS
Build low rise residential units afordable to local residents. Plenty of space for an arts comunity, easy access to a revitalised Don River and Portlands. NO HI RISE CONOS
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1 year, 5 months ago
Amit Kumar
Schools in the neighborhood, family clinics, additions to public heath services around the area to support population growth
Schools in the neighborhood, family clinics, additions to public heath services around the area to support population growth
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
Cassidy.. I get you. When theEast Harbour transit hub (your tax dollars) was planned it was for union station east - a financial district hub serving land zoned for employment-only by the city. There are 300 acres of residential available one block south. Adding residential to east harbour (cad Fairview still says they will build the full office too) is an $800m profit gift to the developer - they paid for office-only land. And it is an added density burden on the community (traffic, etc). What do we get in return? Ask mr. Ford but I bet he gets paid first. I agree it will likely be sterile, because that what business does.
Cassidy.. I get you. When theEast Harbour transit hub (your tax dollars) was planned it was for union station east - a financial district hub serving land zoned for employment-only by the city. There are 300 acres of residential available one block south. Adding residential to east harbour (cad Fairview still says they will build the full office too) is an $800m profit gift to the developer - they paid for office-only land. And it is an added density burden on the community (traffic, etc). What do we get in return? Ask mr. Ford but I bet he gets paid first. I agree it will likely be sterile, because that what business does.
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Cassidy Green
Toronto already has a financial district which is boring and soulless. Nobody visiting or living in the downtown core spends time there for good reason. It would be beneficial to have an equivalent of a financial district for the arts sector in Toronto. The city is BOOMING with talent desperately wanting to escape these civic structural barriers. I have so many friends who are dying for space to make their next project or create their own start-up space for indie films. My friend Daniel who is a photographer was just telling me the other day that Toronto is not doing enough as a city to retain the very people who make cities exciting. If we don't have artists, we don't have visitors, we don't attract residents and we don't have a sense of place. I would feel proud of the city I have spent most of my life if you guys listen to us, and really take our dreams seriously. It's a way of life. I hope to be able to say "You know what? East Harbour can be a way forward for us. In the past, we were fighting for resources, space and opportunities to thrive but now we have a new shot, in a completely new part of town. We need you to listen, and we can work *together* to create a place where people want to be! Not everyone will be happy, I get it, but please try.
Toronto already has a financial district which is boring and soulless. Nobody visiting or living in the downtown core spends time there for good reason. It would be beneficial to have an equivalent of a financial district for the arts sector in Toronto. The city is BOOMING with talent desperately wanting to escape these civic structural barriers. I have so many friends who are dying for space to make their next project or create their own start-up space for indie films. My friend Daniel who is a photographer was just telling me the other day that Toronto is not doing enough as a city to retain the very people who make cities exciting. If we don't have artists, we don't have visitors, we don't attract residents and we don't have a sense of place. I would feel proud of the city I have spent most of my life if you guys listen to us, and really take our dreams seriously. It's a way of life. I hope to be able to say "You know what? East Harbour can be a way forward for us. In the past, we were fighting for resources, space and opportunities to thrive but now we have a new shot, in a completely new part of town. We need you to listen, and we can work *together* to create a place where people want to be! Not everyone will be happy, I get it, but please try.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Tony Whitaker
Good luck with that, indeed. 65 storey residential towers with a large component of 1 bedrooms for investors and Airbnb landlords is not what East Harbour should be all about.
Good luck with that, indeed. 65 storey residential towers with a large component of 1 bedrooms for investors and Airbnb landlords is not what East Harbour should be all about.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Devyn Thomson
The industrial heritage and adaptive reuse of the existing buildings can create a focal point for the development.
The industrial heritage and adaptive reuse of the existing buildings can create a focal point for the development.
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Randy Timmins
Historic preservation and utilization f existing buildings and infrastructure should be a primary theme. The demolition of anything old is a rampant theme in Toronto — including th East Harbour project — and it is beginning to erode the city’s character. Virtually all world-class cities have managed to integrate heritage structures with new architect designs. And it is important to say that when I speak of ‘heritage’ it takes a more meaningful commitment than simply preserving a facade….which s better than nothing but has been proven to be a politically astute form of appeasing developers
Historic preservation and utilization f existing buildings and infrastructure should be a primary theme. The demolition of anything old is a rampant theme in Toronto — including th East Harbour project — and it is beginning to erode the city’s character. Virtually all world-class cities have managed to integrate heritage structures with new architect designs. And it is important to say that when I speak of ‘heritage’ it takes a more meaningful commitment than simply preserving a facade….which s better than nothing but has been proven to be a politically astute form of appeasing developers
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Siphe A
I agree, I wasn’t very impressed with the prospect of more glassy buildings. They all looks aesthetically displeasing.
I agree, I wasn’t very impressed with the prospect of more glassy buildings. They all looks aesthetically displeasing.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Tyler Kruspe
A variation in height restrictions rather than what is currently proposed. Looks like it is solely corporate development driven and not an architectural landmark that it should be. A neighborhood needs to be more than just condo glass towers.
A variation in height restrictions rather than what is currently proposed. Looks like it is solely corporate development driven and not an architectural landmark that it should be. A neighborhood needs to be more than just condo glass towers.
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Keith M
Preservation of Unilever site or incorporation of heritage warehouse buildings into design. Preserve elements of the unilever site in design for sure. Go back to plan to tear down Gardiner East and build a wide Lakeshore Promenade most definitely!
Preservation of Unilever site or incorporation of heritage warehouse buildings into design. Preserve elements of the unilever site in design for sure. Go back to plan to tear down Gardiner East and build a wide Lakeshore Promenade most definitely!
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1 year, 5 months ago
I would also like to see a place built that people could grow old in. We need to move to condos where people can raise a family to keep with this family oriented community. If they are mostly one bedroom and small two bedroom condos, you create more of a transient community who are there a few years and leave without ever really taking care of the place or investing in it because they will move on to bigger and better. Futhermore, this would help with the housing problem as we would create a culture that is more interested in leaving in condos long term. We need that mix and the type of condos that are being proposed are not conducive to that and will not attract people who will care for this neighbourhood for years to come.
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David Hannah
How to prevent East Harbour from becoming another city place residential disaster.
How to prevent East Harbour from becoming another city place residential disaster.
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1 year, 5 months ago
B Hague
Don't you think it is an odd location to have a 65 storey Residential building completely surrounded by equally sized (height) office towers giving the residents barely any views? Wouldn't that residential tower be better located on the site. I assume it was placed there to provide street activation during off peak hours, but seems like an odd location.
Don't you think it is an odd location to have a 65 storey Residential building completely surrounded by equally sized (height) office towers giving the residents barely any views? Wouldn't that residential tower be better located on the site. I assume it was placed there to provide street activation during off peak hours, but seems like an odd location.
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Jacob G-S
There are not enough homes in Toronto so I would like as many homes as possible to be built at this site. More homes will help to lower housing prices which are at crisis levels. Homes in the East Harcour will also have a lower carbon footprint because of their proximity to transit and the greater efficiency of heating and cooling non-detached houses. I hope that this site will be built in a way that prioritizes other forms of transit above cars. This will lead to lower pedestrian fatalities and lower carbon emissions.
There are not enough homes in Toronto so I would like as many homes as possible to be built at this site. More homes will help to lower housing prices which are at crisis levels. Homes in the East Harcour will also have a lower carbon footprint because of their proximity to transit and the greater efficiency of heating and cooling non-detached houses. I hope that this site will be built in a way that prioritizes other forms of transit above cars. This will lead to lower pedestrian fatalities and lower carbon emissions.
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Karen M
What kinds of plans are proposed to ensure that this is an equitable, inclusive space, where Torontonians and visitors aren't excluded / 'priced out' (financially or otherwise), as we've seen in other spaces like Canary Wharf (called out in the consultation presentation as a "success")? Affordable housing is part of the solution, but what other commitments will you make to ensure this is a space for everyone?
What kinds of plans are proposed to ensure that this is an equitable, inclusive space, where Torontonians and visitors aren't excluded / 'priced out' (financially or otherwise), as we've seen in other spaces like Canary Wharf (called out in the consultation presentation as a "success")? Affordable housing is part of the solution, but what other commitments will you make to ensure this is a space for everyone?
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
If the site can accommodate an extra 5 or 6 thousand residents (without any planning), it can surely accommodate and easement to put the subway underground at Booth.
If the site can accommodate an extra 5 or 6 thousand residents (without any planning), it can surely accommodate and easement to put the subway underground at Booth.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Phil P
Need more parks and other amenities
Need more parks and other amenities
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1 year, 5 months ago
Marisa B
100% agree. what measures will be put in place in terms of commercial rent restrictions/ lease types/types of space to keep this from being another block of Shoppers' and Starbucks'
100% agree. what measures will be put in place in terms of commercial rent restrictions/ lease types/types of space to keep this from being another block of Shoppers' and Starbucks'
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1 year, 5 months ago
Veronica T
I would like to see a push to support local restaurants and retail in this area. It would match the aesthetic of Queen E, which is largely dominated by local and small business rather than chain stores and restaurants.
I would like to see a push to support local restaurants and retail in this area. It would match the aesthetic of Queen E, which is largely dominated by local and small business rather than chain stores and restaurants.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Catherine Spears
its more than 20-storeys - First Gulf (old plan) says 35 - 50 storeys - CF new plan is higher as I recall - its on the City's web site
its more than 20-storeys - First Gulf (old plan) says 35 - 50 storeys - CF new plan is higher as I recall - its on the City's web site
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
Good luck with that. They are going 10 - 20 stories higher to squeeze in the extra residential units. Maybe there will be red brick planters.
Good luck with that. They are going 10 - 20 stories higher to squeeze in the extra residential units. Maybe there will be red brick planters.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Tony Whitaker
Paul, you are right to be concerned. Look forward to another Hotel BnB just like Cadillac Fairview’s ICE Condos at York & Bremner.
Paul, you are right to be concerned. Look forward to another Hotel BnB just like Cadillac Fairview’s ICE Condos at York & Bremner.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
Good luck. Province under Ford did a secret deal - no info on what we get, or he gets.
Good luck. Province under Ford did a secret deal - no info on what we get, or he gets.
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1 year, 5 months ago
mike gohl
I would also like to see this district be a world-leader in technology and sustainability. Quayside had that same spirit, the willing to go above and beyond to make a lasting impact for Toronto, but failed due to privacy concerns. East Harbour needs to be innovative and 'harbour' new and future-oriented modes of getting around, technologies and innovative entertainment.
I would also like to see this district be a world-leader in technology and sustainability. Quayside had that same spirit, the willing to go above and beyond to make a lasting impact for Toronto, but failed due to privacy concerns. East Harbour needs to be innovative and 'harbour' new and future-oriented modes of getting around, technologies and innovative entertainment.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Mark McCarthy
The pedestrian experience. This is a large part of what would make the area pleasant to be in. A functional and human-friendly neighbourhood would benefit from the following: - Ample public seating. - Ground-level retail (including patios where applicable). - Streets that are not solely car-oriented. - Parks/parkettes which can function as a space to rest & meet, not just the tiny unused "privately-owned public space" parks we see outside many new condo constructions. - Waste & recycling bins. - Sidewalks with the space for wheelchairs and for crowds on busy days. - Public restrooms - Bicycle parking
The pedestrian experience. This is a large part of what would make the area pleasant to be in. A functional and human-friendly neighbourhood would benefit from the following: - Ample public seating. - Ground-level retail (including patios where applicable). - Streets that are not solely car-oriented. - Parks/parkettes which can function as a space to rest & meet, not just the tiny unused "privately-owned public space" parks we see outside many new condo constructions. - Waste & recycling bins. - Sidewalks with the space for wheelchairs and for crowds on busy days. - Public restrooms - Bicycle parking
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1 year, 5 months ago
Florence Dandry
coming from London, Uk and echoing the comments below I would care to see more support for arts. I feel like there aren't enough quirky districts in this city that celebrate and promote the creative community. Everything is too bland and polished. A few art exhibits or murals in a neighbourhood doesn't make a district arty. We need communes and retail spaces carved out for these artists, a place post-pandemic that culturally thrives and is in line with Toronto's nightlife action plan as well as other local cultural initiatives. In my hometown a neighbourhood called Shoreditch and spitalfields does this mix of art/cultural district and business/finance very well. Shoreditch has studio spaces and quirky art spaces but has nearby city of London workers (Our version of financial district) coming to these spaces as well as tourists and locals too. Please tell the project team to also take inspiration from Soho in London. It truly is a fun and dynamic place.
coming from London, Uk and echoing the comments below I would care to see more support for arts. I feel like there aren't enough quirky districts in this city that celebrate and promote the creative community. Everything is too bland and polished. A few art exhibits or murals in a neighbourhood doesn't make a district arty. We need communes and retail spaces carved out for these artists, a place post-pandemic that culturally thrives and is in line with Toronto's nightlife action plan as well as other local cultural initiatives. In my hometown a neighbourhood called Shoreditch and spitalfields does this mix of art/cultural district and business/finance very well. Shoreditch has studio spaces and quirky art spaces but has nearby city of London workers (Our version of financial district) coming to these spaces as well as tourists and locals too. Please tell the project team to also take inspiration from Soho in London. It truly is a fun and dynamic place.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Seth McDermott
Housing affordability, small independent retail, and public services to make it a complete community. It won't work to just have residential if we don't also think about necessary things like schools, libraries, and other services.
Housing affordability, small independent retail, and public services to make it a complete community. It won't work to just have residential if we don't also think about necessary things like schools, libraries, and other services.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Jason Self
Ensure the built form respects the vernacular of the immediate area. Don't build generic condos with glass spandral, instead use brick and other 'home' elements. The public realm is key as is a zero carbon footprint
Ensure the built form respects the vernacular of the immediate area. Don't build generic condos with glass spandral, instead use brick and other 'home' elements. The public realm is key as is a zero carbon footprint
Supported a comment by Cairns Deleway on
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1 year, 5 months ago
Cairns Deleway
Architecture: It would be great to see a core of skyscrapers that look visually contrasting to the bland glass condos and towers we already see downtown. Future-oriented and ambitious design has an ability to attract people to a place alone. Torontonians need a place they can look at and say "This is proudly, uniquely ours." All of the massing of the buildings look so uniform and boxy, please consider different colours, materials, shapes and perhaps a couple signature tall skyscrapers to make something appealing for Toronto's east-end skyline. Please also consider timber and sustainable options too, position Canada as a leading mass-timber design leader as talked about at the Toronto mass timber institute @ UofT. -Lastly, I want to talk about culture. Culture is a 'feeling in the air', that no bureaucratic document can recreate. It would be a major disappointment walking through the streets of East Harbour and not feeling inspired. Cities like Tokyo and Seoul have vibrant neon lighting and signs that echo a kind of uniqueness and boldness. The reality is, people in the cultural industries are leaving Toronto because it is no longer affordable to have a studio space as well as rents. Arts and Culture are the reasons why we visit cities: Paris, London, New York etc. The most touristic and vibrant neighbourhoods have a thriving arts/cultural scene — Not everyone works in a traditional office setting: i.e. People in music, design, art,, they need studios.
Architecture: It would be great to see a core of skyscrapers that look visually contrasting to the bland glass condos and towers we already see downtown. Future-oriented and ambitious design has an ability to attract people to a place alone. Torontonians need a place they can look at and say "This is proudly, uniquely ours." All of the massing of the buildings look so uniform and boxy, please consider different colours, materials, shapes and perhaps a couple signature tall skyscrapers to make something appealing for Toronto's east-end skyline. Please also consider timber and sustainable options too, position Canada as a leading mass-timber design leader as talked about at the Toronto mass timber institute @ UofT. -Lastly, I want to talk about culture. Culture is a 'feeling in the air', that no bureaucratic document can recreate. It would be a major disappointment walking through the streets of East Harbour and not feeling inspired. Cities like Tokyo and Seoul have vibrant neon lighting and signs that echo a kind of uniqueness and boldness. The reality is, people in the cultural industries are leaving Toronto because it is no longer affordable to have a studio space as well as rents. Arts and Culture are the reasons why we visit cities: Paris, London, New York etc. The most touristic and vibrant neighbourhoods have a thriving arts/cultural scene — Not everyone works in a traditional office setting: i.e. People in music, design, art,, they need studios.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Paul Y
Agree. Some will be drawn to this development, note that about 1/2 the units will likely be bought by investors. https://storeys.com/toronto-condos-investor-owned/ While this may be great for mortgage lenders, developers and consultants it doesn't guarantee good design or "community building" will be big priorities.
Agree. Some will be drawn to this development, note that about 1/2 the units will likely be bought by investors. https://storeys.com/toronto-condos-investor-owned/ While this may be great for mortgage lenders, developers and consultants it doesn't guarantee good design or "community building" will be big priorities.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Eli D
It's so true, everything you said. They don't care, they are just here to make a profit and it is likely that all of these comments are going to be ignored how they usually are. And we are the bad guys whose voices are brushed under the table because we "oppose the development". I don't oppose anything, but I am tired of seeing all of these issues about design and culture and affordability being swept under the rug. No developer is able to sit back and say their development has flaws because they realistically are just there in the interim following orders. We're just thinking several boxy blue/green glass towers with an ok spandrel, nothing too out of the box, nothing too progressive.. okay, yep boss, whatever you say... and the trend repeats itself. Canary wharf, Hudson yards, south core they all follow the same principle of being a corporate and soulless lacklustre downtown. What is staggering is that even after designing all of these districts, there is countless criticism that Cadillac Fairview or Adamson never learn from. Multiple articles, videos and comments on websites are proof that people tend to stay away from these kinds of developments. Countless people have asked about arts, quality and forward-thinking design, but nope, the renderings are bland as usual. It's tasteless and we'll just have to sit back and watch the developer go with what they know, resisting the urge to challenge the binary and create a memorable district known by the world.
It's so true, everything you said. They don't care, they are just here to make a profit and it is likely that all of these comments are going to be ignored how they usually are. And we are the bad guys whose voices are brushed under the table because we "oppose the development". I don't oppose anything, but I am tired of seeing all of these issues about design and culture and affordability being swept under the rug. No developer is able to sit back and say their development has flaws because they realistically are just there in the interim following orders. We're just thinking several boxy blue/green glass towers with an ok spandrel, nothing too out of the box, nothing too progressive.. okay, yep boss, whatever you say... and the trend repeats itself. Canary wharf, Hudson yards, south core they all follow the same principle of being a corporate and soulless lacklustre downtown. What is staggering is that even after designing all of these districts, there is countless criticism that Cadillac Fairview or Adamson never learn from. Multiple articles, videos and comments on websites are proof that people tend to stay away from these kinds of developments. Countless people have asked about arts, quality and forward-thinking design, but nope, the renderings are bland as usual. It's tasteless and we'll just have to sit back and watch the developer go with what they know, resisting the urge to challenge the binary and create a memorable district known by the world.
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1 year, 5 months ago
Paul Y
It seems Mayor Tory is silent on this and is by default, siding with the Premier. If no one speaks up, there will be no planning - no public benefits, no affordability, minimal parks, no schools, etc. City staff and our elected reps have been pushed aside by the Province. Who is doing the negotiating for community and City benefits? Sadly, this is an developer-planned MZO according to staff, see pg 2 https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf
It seems Mayor Tory is silent on this and is by default, siding with the Premier. If no one speaks up, there will be no planning - no public benefits, no affordability, minimal parks, no schools, etc. City staff and our elected reps have been pushed aside by the Province. Who is doing the negotiating for community and City benefits? Sadly, this is an developer-planned MZO according to staff, see pg 2 https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf
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1 year, 5 months ago
Rob Hatton
You have all gone for the bait and switch, discussing final design issues which will be ignored, while the addition of res to this development serves one purpose - to confer to the developer a gift worth close to $1 billion in future profits, without any disclosure of what the public gets in return, and without any regard for planning issues - especially traffic associated with 6,000 new residents (one new intersection at Broadview and Lakeshore and improvements at Don Roadway, but no new highway off ramps to the east, so nothing to cope with 6,000 residents and the 'promise' of 10 million square feet of office). Meanwhile the existing neighbourhood and City taxpayers will bear the brunt of this and the above ground subway, which facilitates a little extra space on the site for these residential units. Hired hacks are used to poison public meetings with comments like "don't worry about those entitled existing local residents". Who to consider then? The wealthy developer interests who live elsewhere? The only real issue here is why is the Ford Government dictating this neighbourhood design? Is the City government of Toronto irrelevant? Cornwall has more power.
You have all gone for the bait and switch, discussing final design issues which will be ignored, while the addition of res to this development serves one purpose - to confer to the developer a gift worth close to $1 billion in future profits, without any disclosure of what the public gets in return, and without any regard for planning issues - especially traffic associated with 6,000 new residents (one new intersection at Broadview and Lakeshore and improvements at Don Roadway, but no new highway off ramps to the east, so nothing to cope with 6,000 residents and the 'promise' of 10 million square feet of office). Meanwhile the existing neighbourhood and City taxpayers will bear the brunt of this and the above ground subway, which facilitates a little extra space on the site for these residential units. Hired hacks are used to poison public meetings with comments like "don't worry about those entitled existing local residents". Who to consider then? The wealthy developer interests who live elsewhere? The only real issue here is why is the Ford Government dictating this neighbourhood design? Is the City government of Toronto irrelevant? Cornwall has more power.
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1 year, 5 months ago
D. Bowes
I offer three real-world examples of what draws our family to a destination neighbourhood, for East Harbour to copy or surpass (using nearby Corktown for this example):
1. An Indoor Attraction (the Cherry St. YMCA, with great family programming, draws us in one day a week, every single week);
2. An Outdoor Attraction (Corktown Common quickly became the trendy location for local Birthday Parties, and a regular waypoint on our family cycling route through Cherry Beach and the Leslie Spit);
3. Food (we always stop at the little restaurant area in the Canary District after our trip to the YMCA or Corktown Common).
I offer three real-world examples of what draws our family to a destination neighbourhood, for East Harbour to copy or surpass (using nearby Corktown for this example):
1. An Indoor Attraction (the Cherry St. YMCA, with great family programming, draws us in one day a week, every single week);
2. An Outdoor Attraction (Corktown Common quickly became the trendy location for local Birthday Parties, and a regular waypoint on our family cycling route through Cherry Beach and the Leslie Spit);
3. Food (we always stop at the little restaurant area in the Canary District after our trip to the YMCA or Corktown Common).
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1 year, 5 months ago
At ground level you have made efforts to keep with the aesthetic of neighbourhood. i.e. Red brick and industrial. But with this project as well as metrolinx Ontario line, we are loosing a signification amount of our untouched green space that acts as the backdrop of our neighbourhood. It is what makes this such a wonderful area to live in the city no glass towers and green space. The world is getting warmer, plant twice as many trees, even if it is on the roofs of train stations and buildings and don't go as high with the glass tower. Use red brick (not grey) higher like 88 colgate ave. Downtown of the east is not what is wanted we have a down town, lets keep it there. People in this neighbourhood don't want to live downtown. We don't like the feel of it there when it comes to our home life. We want to live in a quiet, not too modern (no glass and grey), family oriented, green community. Would love to see further effort made to tie this community into the riverside, leslieville, don valley at every level not just the first 6 stories. It currently will stick out like sore thumb with our current skyline and neighbourhood feel. Complete outlier, please bring more options to the table as this could be an exciting development as opposed to another the the neighbour dreads.
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1 year, 6 months ago
Paula Virany
Is it the Manhattanization of Toronto or the Strip Mall-ization of Toronto?
Cadillac-Fairview's plan is to destroy all heritage buildings on the site. It would be illegal for them to do that, however the Ford government passed legislation that allows destruction of heritage buildings via MZO's (a very aggressive, undemocratic approach.) It led to public demonstrations when the government moved to destroy the Foundries Building. Luckily demonstrators stopped that.
There are three beautiful old brick buildings on the East Harbour site. They are the Unilever building, 433 Eastern and the old Consumers' Gas company building at 419 Eastern. These buildings must be kept intact or incorporated into the new design. It is the history of a city that gives it character, charm and ultimately liveability.
Policy makers often explain that Toronto is going through “Manhattanization” i.e. it is becoming a large, dense city. This is accurate, however one of the reasons that NYC is so fantastic is that it's FULL of gorgeous historical buildings, such as the old brownstones (many are now condos) Greenwich Village, the Meat Packing district etc. All these add beauty and charm to NYC.
If Toronto keeps levelling all its heritage buildings this will not be Manhattanization. It will be a soulless mess.
Can Cadillac Fairview serve our great city and country and keep the heritage buildings? Isn’t that their civic duty?
Will these buildings be left intact or be incorporated into the design? As lobbies, parts of buildings or facades?
Is it the Manhattanization of Toronto or the Strip Mall-ization of Toronto?
Cadillac-Fairview's plan is to destroy all heritage buildings on the site. It would be illegal for them to do that, however the Ford government passed legislation that allows destruction of heritage buildings via MZO's (a very aggressive, undemocratic approach.) It led to public demonstrations when the government moved to destroy the Foundries Building. Luckily demonstrators stopped that.
There are three beautiful old brick buildings on the East Harbour site. They are the Unilever building, 433 Eastern and the old Consumers' Gas company building at 419 Eastern. These buildings must be kept intact or incorporated into the new design. It is the history of a city that gives it character, charm and ultimately liveability.
Policy makers often explain that Toronto is going through “Manhattanization” i.e. it is becoming a large, dense city. This is accurate, however one of the reasons that NYC is so fantastic is that it's FULL of gorgeous historical buildings, such as the old brownstones (many are now condos) Greenwich Village, the Meat Packing district etc. All these add beauty and charm to NYC.
If Toronto keeps levelling all its heritage buildings this will not be Manhattanization. It will be a soulless mess.
Can Cadillac Fairview serve our great city and country and keep the heritage buildings? Isn’t that their civic duty?
Will these buildings be left intact or be incorporated into the design? As lobbies, parts of buildings or facades?
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1 year, 8 months ago
Joe Kinardi
I agree with other comments regarding architecture and design. I want to see less glass and more red brick to honour the industrial past of the site and more creativity and originality. Consider bringing in KPMB architects, whose projects continue to inspire colour and form.
I agree with other comments regarding architecture and design. I want to see less glass and more red brick to honour the industrial past of the site and more creativity and originality. Consider bringing in KPMB architects, whose projects continue to inspire colour and form.
Supported a comment by Jo Williams on
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1 year, 10 months ago
Jo Williams
Architecture that is colourful and eclectic. I want East Harbour to stand the test of time and to look visually intriguing, not following the banal and repetitive trend of glass. Think about Mass timber or other new designs, shapes and spandrel, I want East Harbour to have a unique identity where we don't see rectangular glass towers (that we already see too much of in the city).
Architecture that is colourful and eclectic. I want East Harbour to stand the test of time and to look visually intriguing, not following the banal and repetitive trend of glass. Think about Mass timber or other new designs, shapes and spandrel, I want East Harbour to have a unique identity where we don't see rectangular glass towers (that we already see too much of in the city).
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1 year, 10 months ago
Jo Williams
Perhaps traffic can go underground while passing through the site? I would rather this district to be exclusively for people. I also think built form, cultural programming, entertainment, artist studios and green space are key themes I want to be discussed
Perhaps traffic can go underground while passing through the site? I would rather this district to be exclusively for people. I also think built form, cultural programming, entertainment, artist studios and green space are key themes I want to be discussed
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2 years ago
GERRY BROWN
1. Are there any changes to the previous Street Network plan. One key part of that plan was to have some of the smaller streets be vehicle-free. Does your reference to "pedestrian-accessible open spaces" include these? There don't seem to be any cycling spaces on Streets A-D. How will you design these streets with a Vision Zero lens and safe spaces for all users? 2. With regards to the Transit Hub does Metrolinx have any estimates of future traffic, especially with regards to the idea of the hub operating as a "Union Station to the East". 3. Is there a plan to encourage transit use prior to the completion of the Ontario Line and the Broadview Streetcar extension or is the development only proceeding after those projects are in place. 4. One of the rationales offered for keeping the Soap Factory in place was the amount of material (eg. concrete and steel) that would be re-used. Do you have any plan to account for the increased GHG emissions that will be generated by building fully new buildings? 5. The Toronto Green Standards Checklist indicates the buildings will meet Tier 1. I didn't see any plan to achieve higher environmental standards beyond the minimum Toronto require, such as LEED? I'm hoping I missed that; if not, that would be very disappointing. 6. Is the only addition affordable housing your $5M contribution to offsite housing?
1. Are there any changes to the previous Street Network plan. One key part of that plan was to have some of the smaller streets be vehicle-free. Does your reference to "pedestrian-accessible open spaces" include these? There don't seem to be any cycling spaces on Streets A-D. How will you design these streets with a Vision Zero lens and safe spaces for all users? 2. With regards to the Transit Hub does Metrolinx have any estimates of future traffic, especially with regards to the idea of the hub operating as a "Union Station to the East". 3. Is there a plan to encourage transit use prior to the completion of the Ontario Line and the Broadview Streetcar extension or is the development only proceeding after those projects are in place. 4. One of the rationales offered for keeping the Soap Factory in place was the amount of material (eg. concrete and steel) that would be re-used. Do you have any plan to account for the increased GHG emissions that will be generated by building fully new buildings? 5. The Toronto Green Standards Checklist indicates the buildings will meet Tier 1. I didn't see any plan to achieve higher environmental standards beyond the minimum Toronto require, such as LEED? I'm hoping I missed that; if not, that would be very disappointing. 6. Is the only addition affordable housing your $5M contribution to offsite housing?
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2 years ago
Laurel O
How it integrates with existing neighbourhood
How it integrates with existing neighbourhood
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Architecturally please include red brick is as many as the buildings as possible and not just the feature building. Also not just square everywhere, triagle peaks, detail to the brick work. I love the industrial look you are going for on the street level but be sure to stay away from concrete industrial (grey) and stick to red brick the the community was founded on.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Rosemary Waterston
Green spaces! The bits of green shown on your plans are too small. There needs to be a big park with space for a soccer pitch and baseball diamond. If you are adding 4000 residences this area needs real parkland, not just "gathering places" and "squares" with a few trees.
Green spaces! The bits of green shown on your plans are too small. There needs to be a big park with space for a soccer pitch and baseball diamond. If you are adding 4000 residences this area needs real parkland, not just "gathering places" and "squares" with a few trees.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Angus MacKay
Access to lake.
Access to lake.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Veronica T
1) Birds - should be designed to avoid disruption to migration patterns and glass should include mechanisms to prevent birds from flying into them 2) can all residential buildings be on the outside of the perimeter ? if they are surrounded by office buildings they'll have poor views and lower value. 3) I think more grass and park space is necessary. if you're incorporating that many residential buildings, you're going to have dogs and pets that will need the green space. More greenspace modeled after the Esplanade, which has open fields and a basketball court, would be beneficial. It's a great greenspace that connects the Distillery to the St Lawrence market 4) please cater to local business, it would be a shame to see all big chain restaurants and shops.
1) Birds - should be designed to avoid disruption to migration patterns and glass should include mechanisms to prevent birds from flying into them 2) can all residential buildings be on the outside of the perimeter ? if they are surrounded by office buildings they'll have poor views and lower value. 3) I think more grass and park space is necessary. if you're incorporating that many residential buildings, you're going to have dogs and pets that will need the green space. More greenspace modeled after the Esplanade, which has open fields and a basketball court, would be beneficial. It's a great greenspace that connects the Distillery to the St Lawrence market 4) please cater to local business, it would be a shame to see all big chain restaurants and shops.
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2 years, 1 month ago
The biggest concern I have is with regards to density and overdeveloping this area. With regards to transportation if %10 of the population in this district will be using vehicles. Total 7000 residential and up 50 000 commercial. That is 5700 more vehicles going through the only 2 major highways to the east end Gardner and Don Valley. This also does not include the other major district that will be developed in the East namely the East Port Lands also using the same transportation hubs. The extra residential in this area also drives the building higher and does not conform at all with the surrounding area where there are height restrictions. I think it would make so much more sense to have this area remain purely commercial so that other infrastructure in the area does not need to be adapted to include residential. Could you give us the numbers for the updated density number of not only this area but include it in the master plan of the whole of the east side development. How do you measure over development in this small area?
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Is it possible to connect to the cocktown park through a walking trail and biking trail over the new subway bridge. This would help connect park spaces and neighboourhoods.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Claire McLeod
A mix of small locally owned businesses are key!
A mix of small locally owned businesses are key!
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2 years, 1 month ago
David S.
The placement of residential uses in and amongst the commercial uses needs to be well thought out given the lived experience of City Place. Where possible, residential should be clustered at the edge of the commercial core to create sightlines to the lake to the east, west and south and to the city to the north. Connecting the various residential "neighbourhoods" through paths, parks and bike lanes will build a sense of community and bring people outside and together. A conscious effort to accommodate pets is key. Proper "waste" sites that include artificial turf and the ability for City workers to hose them down are important. Off-leash areas that are well fenced, well lit and include artificial turf will provide a year-round experience for residents and will foster interaction and community building.
The placement of residential uses in and amongst the commercial uses needs to be well thought out given the lived experience of City Place. Where possible, residential should be clustered at the edge of the commercial core to create sightlines to the lake to the east, west and south and to the city to the north. Connecting the various residential "neighbourhoods" through paths, parks and bike lanes will build a sense of community and bring people outside and together. A conscious effort to accommodate pets is key. Proper "waste" sites that include artificial turf and the ability for City workers to hose them down are important. Off-leash areas that are well fenced, well lit and include artificial turf will provide a year-round experience for residents and will foster interaction and community building.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Eric Wright
Fully agree. Include pedestrian and cycle only street spaces, and let those spaces be vibrant and mixed-use.
Fully agree. Include pedestrian and cycle only street spaces, and let those spaces be vibrant and mixed-use.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Cairns Deleway
I completely agree with you, Joe. Montreal has the upper hand when it comes to entertainment, culture and fun. Streets in Montreal that are mostly pedestrian scaled accommodate circus arts, performers, all types of flexible arts/culture installations. Toronto has a business flair but not really a culture flair aside from a few small districts. East Harbour is probably our last shot to reclaim this, considering it is one of the last largest undeveloped parcels of land.
If Toronto cannot compete culturally with other major players, it will not be a desirable place to live, visit or work. Being Canada's most visited destination, we have to expand on this but also remember how residents are used to venues being replaced by condos.
I am worried that any entertainment venues will appeal strictly to the working-class, wealthier office folks in a similar fashion to Canary Wharf. I hope this site will engage & attract youth, as well as the wider arts community.
I completely agree with you, Joe. Montreal has the upper hand when it comes to entertainment, culture and fun. Streets in Montreal that are mostly pedestrian scaled accommodate circus arts, performers, all types of flexible arts/culture installations. Toronto has a business flair but not really a culture flair aside from a few small districts. East Harbour is probably our last shot to reclaim this, considering it is one of the last largest undeveloped parcels of land.
If Toronto cannot compete culturally with other major players, it will not be a desirable place to live, visit or work. Being Canada's most visited destination, we have to expand on this but also remember how residents are used to venues being replaced by condos.
I am worried that any entertainment venues will appeal strictly to the working-class, wealthier office folks in a similar fashion to Canary Wharf. I hope this site will engage & attract youth, as well as the wider arts community.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Joe Senc
I hate to keep beating a dead horse but look to Montreal on how they bring community, business & after 5pm crowds together, we need walkable streets no cars, with cafes, restaurants, retail & entertainment. Some form of access to the river would nice if possible, use Chicago as the example. You have a blank canvas here use it. People in Toronto continually mention on how great & fun Montreal is well here is our chance lets get it right.
I hate to keep beating a dead horse but look to Montreal on how they bring community, business & after 5pm crowds together, we need walkable streets no cars, with cafes, restaurants, retail & entertainment. Some form of access to the river would nice if possible, use Chicago as the example. You have a blank canvas here use it. People in Toronto continually mention on how great & fun Montreal is well here is our chance lets get it right.
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2 years, 1 month ago
IAN PINCHIN
A mixture of uses is key, the days of having single-use office districts has surely passed. If residential isn't permitted this risks being a ghost town similar to what the king and bay financial district was a decade ago and would be a missed opportunity.
A mixture of uses is key, the days of having single-use office districts has surely passed. If residential isn't permitted this risks being a ghost town similar to what the king and bay financial district was a decade ago and would be a missed opportunity.
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Lisa arman
Design is extremely important; it is the overall character and story of a city which seeks to inspire and contribute to the uniqueness of a site. Architecture should steer away from the uniform blue/green glass trend common in the downtown core and look towards more varying heights, materials and shapes. East harbour should have a futurist image and somehow contrast downtown in a bold way, while also adding a signature look to the east-end skyline.
Design is extremely important; it is the overall character and story of a city which seeks to inspire and contribute to the uniqueness of a site. Architecture should steer away from the uniform blue/green glass trend common in the downtown core and look towards more varying heights, materials and shapes. East harbour should have a futurist image and somehow contrast downtown in a bold way, while also adding a signature look to the east-end skyline.
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Binh Lu
How new designs will fit into surrounding neighborhoods, specifically how many more and much taller buildings are from previous plans, how much more shadow they will create, how more residents will compete for daycare and school spaces, etc.
How new designs will fit into surrounding neighborhoods, specifically how many more and much taller buildings are from previous plans, how much more shadow they will create, how more residents will compete for daycare and school spaces, etc.
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Cairns Deleway
Creativity and culture is often put last when it comes to these types of conversations when it's the defining identity of a city. The arts are where the future of work is shifting to, this needs to be a major driver here. I don't mean just a few art galleries and public art. There are nine towers on this site, cultural uses should take up significant space in these towers too and not be seen as something 'second-hand' to our city or economy.
Creativity and culture is often put last when it comes to these types of conversations when it's the defining identity of a city. The arts are where the future of work is shifting to, this needs to be a major driver here. I don't mean just a few art galleries and public art. There are nine towers on this site, cultural uses should take up significant space in these towers too and not be seen as something 'second-hand' to our city or economy.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Eric Wright
Please plan adequate green space, and cycle and pedestrian infrastructure. Consider noise proofing the Don Valley parkway, which is a nuisance in the area.
Please plan adequate green space, and cycle and pedestrian infrastructure. Consider noise proofing the Don Valley parkway, which is a nuisance in the area.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Nikko Whalberge
Please plan a vibrant district where exciting and interesting experiences happen. I'd be disappointed to see another dead and soul less financial district. Please plan for vibrancy, a word that isn't usually taken seriously in Toronto. It would be nice to create a district that we can be proud of, not just another office district that has no pulse to it. Culture, it is integral to the future of our city.
Please plan a vibrant district where exciting and interesting experiences happen. I'd be disappointed to see another dead and soul less financial district. Please plan for vibrancy, a word that isn't usually taken seriously in Toronto. It would be nice to create a district that we can be proud of, not just another office district that has no pulse to it. Culture, it is integral to the future of our city.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Cole J
Beautiful architecture that can be admired and where the bar is set high in built form. No more boxy towers that all look the same, please ensure diversity of material, colours and shapes. Timber is something i’d like to see and low-carbon design but also innovate and seek to bring more curiosity and originality to this part of Toronto. Well-designed spaces improve our mental health, I don’t want to see any more glass (Toronto’s downtown buildings all look the same)
Beautiful architecture that can be admired and where the bar is set high in built form. No more boxy towers that all look the same, please ensure diversity of material, colours and shapes. Timber is something i’d like to see and low-carbon design but also innovate and seek to bring more curiosity and originality to this part of Toronto. Well-designed spaces improve our mental health, I don’t want to see any more glass (Toronto’s downtown buildings all look the same)
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2 years, 1 month ago
Sandra Kiloughby
also focus on creating streets prioritising people, not for cars. It is time to take car-dependency North American mindset away from Toronto.
also focus on creating streets prioritising people, not for cars. It is time to take car-dependency North American mindset away from Toronto.
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2 years, 1 month ago
David V
Yes and be bold with architecture! no more cookie-cutter buildings!
Yes and be bold with architecture! no more cookie-cutter buildings!
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2 years, 1 month ago
Jess Foran
I am worried considering Adamson's portfolio that we will see a lot of the same kinds of buildings like we have seen in Canary Wharf and Hudson yards where all of the buildings are glass but slightly different in shape. Please ensure that are international design competitions for the buildings — If all of the buildings are typical what we have seen in the past, and if they all 'blend in' to downtown, it will not speak to the longevity of this site in coming decades. consider design as heritage, something that will speak to future generations and something that is of high importance.
I am worried considering Adamson's portfolio that we will see a lot of the same kinds of buildings like we have seen in Canary Wharf and Hudson yards where all of the buildings are glass but slightly different in shape. Please ensure that are international design competitions for the buildings — If all of the buildings are typical what we have seen in the past, and if they all 'blend in' to downtown, it will not speak to the longevity of this site in coming decades. consider design as heritage, something that will speak to future generations and something that is of high importance.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Irene Hanitijo
Need some senior community service
Need some senior community service
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2 years, 1 month ago
Caleigh Silmser
Infrastructure to support the influx of residents and families in this area (schools, daycares, community centres, etc.)
Infrastructure to support the influx of residents and families in this area (schools, daycares, community centres, etc.)
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B Germain
Neighborhood identity
Neighborhood identity
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2 years, 1 month ago
Nigel R
Mixed housing stock. Something similar to the St.Lawrence Building plan is a great example of mix housing stock. Especially as we distance away from high density blocks and further south. I currently live in the area and would love to continue to live in the area.
Mixed housing stock. Something similar to the St.Lawrence Building plan is a great example of mix housing stock. Especially as we distance away from high density blocks and further south. I currently live in the area and would love to continue to live in the area.
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Isiah Wint-Rose
Start to develop infrastructure to get people in and out and not clog the existing roads. But overall interested in mixed use and active lifestyle
Start to develop infrastructure to get people in and out and not clog the existing roads. But overall interested in mixed use and active lifestyle
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Tim Chase Photography
Public spaces and green lands
Public spaces and green lands
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Joseph de Nobrega
Bike path and community services
Bike path and community services
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Marisa B
Affordability, transit connections, bike routes, public spaces
Affordability, transit connections, bike routes, public spaces
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Jennifer S
Environmental impact & green space. Schools & child care services.
Environmental impact & green space. Schools & child care services.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Gene B
I really agree with this person. Pay attention to the architecture. Please no boring glass towers. Use timber (as was previously suggested), use brick, investigate new materials and new technologies to make the space as sustainable and environmentally friendly as possible. Pay attention to who will use the place: it should appeal to a wide range of residents (age groups, family structure, income levels, occupations), which in turn will widen the appeal for visitors. To ensure that artists, small independant businesses, retailers and restaurants have a proeminent place, affordability is going to be key.
I really agree with this person. Pay attention to the architecture. Please no boring glass towers. Use timber (as was previously suggested), use brick, investigate new materials and new technologies to make the space as sustainable and environmentally friendly as possible. Pay attention to who will use the place: it should appeal to a wide range of residents (age groups, family structure, income levels, occupations), which in turn will widen the appeal for visitors. To ensure that artists, small independant businesses, retailers and restaurants have a proeminent place, affordability is going to be key.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Kay Barley
CF - Please, no more repetitive and bland retail, I don't want to see any excessive McDonalds or chain stores. That does not make a district vibrant or create life past 5pm, try to think outside of the box for retail and showcase how a large commercial district doesn't have to feel all that commercial at all. Be a leader here, where Toronto has more local fashion, culture, restaurants and experiences that make us proud and excited to live here. A way to infuse this spirit is to make commercial rents deeply affordable for creative entrepreneurs.
Also a word on the public realm. Please ensure the central square isn't the only focus. A stage and some seating does not feel exciting or world-class to me. Think of vibrant cities around the world like Times Square, shibuya crossing in Tokyo, Covent Garden or Piccadilly Circus in London, these squares have a POP element with cool lighting where people are attracted to coming at nighttime to see neon lights, vibrant screens and glowing public art. Try to make something signature for Toronto, the kind of thing that is original but imposes a signature mark on our overall urban appeal. Perhaps the alleyway retail streets can have these neon lighting in signage, or string lighting to make them feel warm and appealing to walk around at. I would like to feel inspired to come to East Harbour - Simply a few glass towers and a square is just not enough. Be bold here
CF - Please, no more repetitive and bland retail, I don't want to see any excessive McDonalds or chain stores. That does not make a district vibrant or create life past 5pm, try to think outside of the box for retail and showcase how a large commercial district doesn't have to feel all that commercial at all. Be a leader here, where Toronto has more local fashion, culture, restaurants and experiences that make us proud and excited to live here. A way to infuse this spirit is to make commercial rents deeply affordable for creative entrepreneurs.
Also a word on the public realm. Please ensure the central square isn't the only focus. A stage and some seating does not feel exciting or world-class to me. Think of vibrant cities around the world like Times Square, shibuya crossing in Tokyo, Covent Garden or Piccadilly Circus in London, these squares have a POP element with cool lighting where people are attracted to coming at nighttime to see neon lights, vibrant screens and glowing public art. Try to make something signature for Toronto, the kind of thing that is original but imposes a signature mark on our overall urban appeal. Perhaps the alleyway retail streets can have these neon lighting in signage, or string lighting to make them feel warm and appealing to walk around at. I would like to feel inspired to come to East Harbour - Simply a few glass towers and a square is just not enough. Be bold here
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2 years, 1 month ago
mike gohl
I agree. No more ugly bland glass towers in East Harbour! I would also like to see lumber, wood, timber and make Canada a known place for this kind of architecture as well as exploring those kinds of materials you suggested!
I agree. No more ugly bland glass towers in East Harbour! I would also like to see lumber, wood, timber and make Canada a known place for this kind of architecture as well as exploring those kinds of materials you suggested!
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2 years, 1 month ago
Gene B
This area is very suitable for development, but what you propose is a forest of tall buildings. It doesn´t look promising or inviting at all. How are you going to create a homey feeling and ensure it fits in the neighborhood?
This area is very suitable for development, but what you propose is a forest of tall buildings. It doesn´t look promising or inviting at all. How are you going to create a homey feeling and ensure it fits in the neighborhood?
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2 years, 1 month ago
Momola issa
I'd like to see more 'offbeat' shops and eccentricity in East Harbour too.
I'm genuinely so tired and fed up with the cookie-cutter Rexall pharmacies, weed stores and overall dreariness all over Downtown Toronto! Liberty village, City place, Yonge Street...it's all too generic with the same boring chain restaurants and the same soul sucking architecture.
I don't want to see steakhouses and boston pizza's in East Harbour, a truly 'world-class' neighbourhood has a wow-factor where retail and vibes are hip and different.
I'd like to see more 'offbeat' shops and eccentricity in East Harbour too.
I'm genuinely so tired and fed up with the cookie-cutter Rexall pharmacies, weed stores and overall dreariness all over Downtown Toronto! Liberty village, City place, Yonge Street...it's all too generic with the same boring chain restaurants and the same soul sucking architecture.
I don't want to see steakhouses and boston pizza's in East Harbour, a truly 'world-class' neighbourhood has a wow-factor where retail and vibes are hip and different.
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Momola issa
Heritage is important and this structure was always so striking when driving past it. Sad to see it go, because of greed.
Heritage is important and this structure was always so striking when driving past it. Sad to see it go, because of greed.
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Momola issa
Agreed Jason.
Agreed Jason.
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Jason Paris
Saving the Unilever building to ground the site to its history. It can be done, despite what CF are trying to argue.
Saving the Unilever building to ground the site to its history. It can be done, despite what CF are trying to argue.
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Parker Loche
I'd also like to see TO break out of this distinct business flair and be more cultural and artistic. This is what fascinates people and makes people excited about cities. Not buildings and fast food joints...
I'd also like to see TO break out of this distinct business flair and be more cultural and artistic. This is what fascinates people and makes people excited about cities. Not buildings and fast food joints...
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Momola issa
This is going to be a major district where people will live work and travel through. Think of how you can think of East Harbour as a destination worth visiting rather than just an interchange or junction. I can tell you right now that people in my age group (late teens - early 20s) will be bored out of our minds if this is a district that shuts down past midnight. People my age want to take cool photos for instagram at cool art exhibits and cool buildings. Yonge-Dundas square is okay but you guys can do better, aim to make a 'cooler times square' if that is even possible. If East Harbour isn't a cultural destination and is appealing enough, there isn't another site in Toronto that has a chance to really showcase what Toronto's true identity is. I mean for example is incorporating unique restaurants in spaces like buildings with downtown views, or on rooftops even. After this covid bullshit ends (pardon my French) I want a place where I can let myself go, walking around Yonge Street or Bloor west and sitting on a patio can get repetitive...We have so many talented artists, musicians, designers etc. who have left Toronto because they are young artist who cannot afford rents. All of these shiny new condos are replacing all of the amazing arts collectives. Be the district that proves me wrong about staying here.
This is going to be a major district where people will live work and travel through. Think of how you can think of East Harbour as a destination worth visiting rather than just an interchange or junction. I can tell you right now that people in my age group (late teens - early 20s) will be bored out of our minds if this is a district that shuts down past midnight. People my age want to take cool photos for instagram at cool art exhibits and cool buildings. Yonge-Dundas square is okay but you guys can do better, aim to make a 'cooler times square' if that is even possible. If East Harbour isn't a cultural destination and is appealing enough, there isn't another site in Toronto that has a chance to really showcase what Toronto's true identity is. I mean for example is incorporating unique restaurants in spaces like buildings with downtown views, or on rooftops even. After this covid bullshit ends (pardon my French) I want a place where I can let myself go, walking around Yonge Street or Bloor west and sitting on a patio can get repetitive...We have so many talented artists, musicians, designers etc. who have left Toronto because they are young artist who cannot afford rents. All of these shiny new condos are replacing all of the amazing arts collectives. Be the district that proves me wrong about staying here.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Parker Loche
Be an exciting and forward thinking centre. Focus on new, innovative & exciting industries. Particularly the creative industries & media. Everybody thinks about how a new district needs to 'fit in' to an existing context or site. What you should be thinking about when planning for this site is how it doesn't belong. Those kinds of city within a city districts are what shifts a city's culture, identity, and workforce, not the kind that blends in and feels like any other financial district in Toronto.
Be an exciting and forward thinking centre. Focus on new, innovative & exciting industries. Particularly the creative industries & media. Everybody thinks about how a new district needs to 'fit in' to an existing context or site. What you should be thinking about when planning for this site is how it doesn't belong. Those kinds of city within a city districts are what shifts a city's culture, identity, and workforce, not the kind that blends in and feels like any other financial district in Toronto.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Leslie Fernster
I'd like to see European-style streets with performers and cultural events, food trucks, places for kids & teens and pretty, striking architecture with different materials. No more glass rectangles with ugly balconies, tired of seeing this uninspiring design of residential buildings.
I'd like to see European-style streets with performers and cultural events, food trucks, places for kids & teens and pretty, striking architecture with different materials. No more glass rectangles with ugly balconies, tired of seeing this uninspiring design of residential buildings.
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Trevor McLeod
sustainability standards the units will adhere to
sustainability standards the units will adhere to
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Aisling N
Scale. When you look at world class cities, they have planned their cities to respect the scale and natural world so that residential spaces blend and are not fighting against the space. We missed this opportunity when we redeveloped the lake front near Park Lawn with sky high towers on the the lake that block the sky high towers behind them. We have an opportunity here to reimagine this. Having 20+ floor towers on the bank of a river or lakefront is an irreversible decision that will affect our communities for generations. And there is no argument to be made for creating housing that we need when these units will likely go for close to a million and only $5M is being spent on affordable housing that is all offsite. Let’s envision a right-sized scale community with beautiful green space that will blend into the Portland’s and not overshadow them. We have learned so much about balance in the past two years and how people want to live and spend their time, let’s use that to design our future and not use planning practices that only perpetuate density and put the value on efficiency over joy.
Scale. When you look at world class cities, they have planned their cities to respect the scale and natural world so that residential spaces blend and are not fighting against the space. We missed this opportunity when we redeveloped the lake front near Park Lawn with sky high towers on the the lake that block the sky high towers behind them. We have an opportunity here to reimagine this. Having 20+ floor towers on the bank of a river or lakefront is an irreversible decision that will affect our communities for generations. And there is no argument to be made for creating housing that we need when these units will likely go for close to a million and only $5M is being spent on affordable housing that is all offsite. Let’s envision a right-sized scale community with beautiful green space that will blend into the Portland’s and not overshadow them. We have learned so much about balance in the past two years and how people want to live and spend their time, let’s use that to design our future and not use planning practices that only perpetuate density and put the value on efficiency over joy.
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2 years, 1 month ago
Hailey Barnes
Thinking culturally about East Harbour. Neighbourhoods that draw the most people are also the most artsy. Kensington cool-factor, Queen west galleries and distillery architecture for example. East Harbour mindset needs to shift from a blank canvas of towers to a filled canvas of art. This is what we want in the east-end....ART, art, art!
Thinking culturally about East Harbour. Neighbourhoods that draw the most people are also the most artsy. Kensington cool-factor, Queen west galleries and distillery architecture for example. East Harbour mindset needs to shift from a blank canvas of towers to a filled canvas of art. This is what we want in the east-end....ART, art, art!
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Paul Filipopoulos
Spend the money for stabilization of the structures. Concentrate on this with focus. Cobble stones is an amazing old school idea that ALC can do great the more money put in the more circulating the area and surrounding it. The potential for this area is nuts. Build it with pride not just greed lol. I believe italians do this very well.
Spend the money for stabilization of the structures. Concentrate on this with focus. Cobble stones is an amazing old school idea that ALC can do great the more money put in the more circulating the area and surrounding it. The potential for this area is nuts. Build it with pride not just greed lol. I believe italians do this very well.
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Tony Whitaker
65 storey residential towers exist at Yonge and Bloor and close to Scotiabank Arena etc. Not appropriate for East Harbour. If residential is approved, a maximum height of 25 storeys should be the number. This would be consistent with the surrounding area (West Don Lands condos) and even lower heights on Broadview Avenue up to Queen St.
65 storey residential towers exist at Yonge and Bloor and close to Scotiabank Arena etc. Not appropriate for East Harbour. If residential is approved, a maximum height of 25 storeys should be the number. This would be consistent with the surrounding area (West Don Lands condos) and even lower heights on Broadview Avenue up to Queen St.
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Height Restriction. This is a quiet low lying neighbourhood. These Towers are much higher then anything else around. This is troublesome.
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Great idea, railway arches would also bring some character