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Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal. In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938.
Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance.
Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station.
The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal. In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938.
Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance.
Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station.
The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
Supported a comment by Betsy C on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Betsy C
Shade and shelter at bus stops. More bike lanes. Make the Rosa Parks transit center a cool place to hang out (like other downtown parks).
Shade and shelter at bus stops. More bike lanes. Make the Rosa Parks transit center a cool place to hang out (like other downtown parks).
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
I favor the attached 2020 map as a point-of-departure for a plan to make MCS a regional and inter-city transit hub. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2945360579055562&set=gm.10159327000719579
I favor the attached 2020 map as a point-of-departure for a plan to make MCS a regional and inter-city transit hub. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2945360579055562&set=gm.10159327000719579
Supported a comment by John Mohyi on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
John Mohyi
Hands down, wedding venue on the top floor with hotel rooms for rent. Also, the train tracks that run from the MCS past Greenfield Village, should be actually connected to Greenfield Village. Then all you need is an old school train. The MCS development needs to create new experiences!
Hands down, wedding venue on the top floor with hotel rooms for rent. Also, the train tracks that run from the MCS past Greenfield Village, should be actually connected to Greenfield Village. Then all you need is an old school train. The MCS development needs to create new experiences!
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
The following was posted by Steve Burns at Detroit - Area Railroad History Facebook group (edited):
The new-in-2014 Dearborn Amtrak Station includes an entrance to Greenfield Village (doors at base of south elevator tower, leading to concrete walk and gate). I talked to an Amtrak agent there recently, and he doubts that entrance has ever been used. An agent would have to call a museum staffer to come over and unlock the gate -- not something the museum would be interested in doing. It's easier to only admit people at the Village's main entrance.
The Village still maintains a rarely-used physical connection with Amtrak's MDOT-owned mainline, which diverges from the mainline east of Smith's Creek Station.
The following was posted by Steve Burns at Detroit - Area Railroad History Facebook group (edited):
The new-in-2014 Dearborn Amtrak Station includes an entrance to Greenfield Village (doors at base of south elevator tower, leading to concrete walk and gate). I talked to an Amtrak agent there recently, and he doubts that entrance has ever been used. An agent would have to call a museum staffer to come over and unlock the gate -- not something the museum would be interested in doing. It's easier to only admit people at the Village's main entrance.
The Village still maintains a rarely-used physical connection with Amtrak's MDOT-owned mainline, which diverges from the mainline east of Smith's Creek Station.
Supported a comment by cuthbert francis on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
cuthbert francis
regional and local trains hubbed at MCS! a robust street car and bike lane infrastructure connecting MCS to downtown and the near east side! more mixed use development infilling the vacant space in the neighborhood! ambitious high rise deveopment next door on the SW Det Hospital site! freeway lid parks unifying to North Corktown!
regional and local trains hubbed at MCS! a robust street car and bike lane infrastructure connecting MCS to downtown and the near east side! more mixed use development infilling the vacant space in the neighborhood! ambitious high rise deveopment next door on the SW Det Hospital site! freeway lid parks unifying to North Corktown!
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Although the questions raised in this forum center on the local Corktown neighborhood, it can't be denied that MCS and its nearby railroad infrastructure remain an important regional transit resource -- one which shouldn't be wasted.
MCS was designed to host local and inter-city passenger trains, arriving and departing from all points of the compass -- including Canada (via the nearby 1910 Detroit River Tunnel, construction of which determined the landmark's location).
Click-on the attached link to access a 2020 schematic map, which shows how Ford's Michigan Central development could serve as a regional transit hub: light rail, Amtrak, high-speed-rail (HSR) to Toronto, HSR to Chicago and Cleveland (via Detroit Metro Airport and Toledo).
I look forward to MCS becoming a Destination Station!
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2945360579055562&set=gm.10159327000719579
Although the questions raised in this forum center on the local Corktown neighborhood, it can't be denied that MCS and its nearby railroad infrastructure remain an important regional transit resource -- one which shouldn't be wasted.
MCS was designed to host local and inter-city passenger trains, arriving and departing from all points of the compass -- including Canada (via the nearby 1910 Detroit River Tunnel, construction of which determined the landmark's location).
Click-on the attached link to access a 2020 schematic map, which shows how Ford's Michigan Central development could serve as a regional transit hub: light rail, Amtrak, high-speed-rail (HSR) to Toronto, HSR to Chicago and Cleveland (via Detroit Metro Airport and Toledo).
I look forward to MCS becoming a Destination Station!
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2945360579055562&set=gm.10159327000719579
Supported a comment by Bob J on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Bob J
Create a transit center were multiple bus routes can converge. Make use of the rails with actual passenger trains of some sort
Create a transit center were multiple bus routes can converge. Make use of the rails with actual passenger trains of some sort
Supported a comment by Timothy McKay on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Timothy McKay
Create shuttle system for the west/southwest side.
Create shuttle system for the west/southwest side.
Supported a comment by Nicole Rittenour on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Nicole Rittenour
Shuttle to downtown and Michigan ave businesses, over to Mexican town and Clark park.
Shuttle to downtown and Michigan ave businesses, over to Mexican town and Clark park.
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal. In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938. Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance, and BEYOND -- roll the trolley down the ramp, stop below the East Entrance, and continue through the long-vacant MCS Mail Room (under the tracks) to Newark Street, Mexicantown, Clark Park, and all points west. Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station. The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal. In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938. Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance, and BEYOND -- roll the trolley down the ramp, stop below the East Entrance, and continue through the long-vacant MCS Mail Room (under the tracks) to Newark Street, Mexicantown, Clark Park, and all points west. Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station. The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Ford should establish a Museum / Visitor Center as part of its West Corktown Innovation Campus to tell the story of Michigan Central Station, from 1913 to the present. I hope Detroit Historical Society and / or The Henry Ford will take an active part in this venture. MCS continues to be the world's most-famous infamous landmark. It already qualifies as a tourist destination, despite being closed to the public. https://www.facebook.com/groups/100654233396758
Ford should establish a Museum / Visitor Center as part of its West Corktown Innovation Campus to tell the story of Michigan Central Station, from 1913 to the present. I hope Detroit Historical Society and / or The Henry Ford will take an active part in this venture. MCS continues to be the world's most-famous infamous landmark. It already qualifies as a tourist destination, despite being closed to the public. https://www.facebook.com/groups/100654233396758
Supported a comment by Troi Kicklighter on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Troi Kicklighter
Great to see MCS refurbishment now make sure passenger rail is expanded all directions-north, east, west and south!!!
Great to see MCS refurbishment now make sure passenger rail is expanded all directions-north, east, west and south!!!
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Actually, John Dingle Transit Center in Dearborn (completed 2014) already includes a platform adjacent to the MDOT-owned Michigan Line (dispatched by Amtrak), which was intended to function as an exclusive rail passenger entrance to Greenfield Village. All that's lacking is the will to use it -- some say it's never been used.
Actually, John Dingle Transit Center in Dearborn (completed 2014) already includes a platform adjacent to the MDOT-owned Michigan Line (dispatched by Amtrak), which was intended to function as an exclusive rail passenger entrance to Greenfield Village. All that's lacking is the will to use it -- some say it's never been used.
Supported a comment by Barbara Jenken on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Barbara Jenken
It would so great to have a passenger train that could go between the station to Henry Ford museum and Greenfield Village and back! After all, there is a side track that leads off the main line into the museum's back parking lot! What a better way to link up both historical landmarks!
It would so great to have a passenger train that could go between the station to Henry Ford museum and Greenfield Village and back! After all, there is a side track that leads off the main line into the museum's back parking lot! What a better way to link up both historical landmarks!
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Return Amtrak to Michigan Central members favor reviving rail passenger service at Ford Motor Company's landmark Michigan Central Station (MCS), currently undergoing renovation in Detroit MI.
The last Amtrak train departed from MCS on January 5, 1988. For more information, please copy-and-paste the attached link. Amtrak's announced plans include a proposed Chicago / Detroit / Windsor / Toronto WOLVERINE section, which will make its Detroit stop at MCS. https://www.facebook.com/groups/returnamtraktomichigancentralstation
Return Amtrak to Michigan Central members favor reviving rail passenger service at Ford Motor Company's landmark Michigan Central Station (MCS), currently undergoing renovation in Detroit MI.
The last Amtrak train departed from MCS on January 5, 1988. For more information, please copy-and-paste the attached link. Amtrak's announced plans include a proposed Chicago / Detroit / Windsor / Toronto WOLVERINE section, which will make its Detroit stop at MCS. https://www.facebook.com/groups/returnamtraktomichigancentralstation
Supported a comment by Tales R on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Tales R
It would be fantastic if you could bring Amtrak trains back to MCS!
It would be fantastic if you could bring Amtrak trains back to MCS!
Supported a comment by jozanna hudson on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
jozanna hudson
i wish we could open it for a real train station again !! we definitely need a terminal back that can get us back and forth like that !
i wish we could open it for a real train station again !! we definitely need a terminal back that can get us back and forth like that !
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Dudley
Amtrak intends to inaugurate a new Chicago / Detroit / Windsor / Toronto train, which will make its Detroit stop at "a newly renovated Michigan Central Terminal" (!)
Return Amtrak to Michigan Central members favor reviving rail passenger service at Ford Motor Company's landmark Michigan Central Station (MCS), currently undergoing renovation in Detroit MI.
The attached Detroit News photograph (shot on January 5, 1988) shows the last Amtrak WOLVERINE train to depart from MCS.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/returnamtraktomichigancentralstation
Amtrak intends to inaugurate a new Chicago / Detroit / Windsor / Toronto train, which will make its Detroit stop at "a newly renovated Michigan Central Terminal" (!)
Return Amtrak to Michigan Central members favor reviving rail passenger service at Ford Motor Company's landmark Michigan Central Station (MCS), currently undergoing renovation in Detroit MI.
The attached Detroit News photograph (shot on January 5, 1988) shows the last Amtrak WOLVERINE train to depart from MCS.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/returnamtraktomichigancentralstation
Commented on Michigan Central
6 months ago
Bravo, bravo with mostly local higher quality rail transit connections comments. The M1 should turn at its base in downtown and head to oldest Corktown and the repurposed Michigan Central office tower and a smaller Station in a good part of below. This line exstention would serve a number of key buildings on the way and importantly connect the City bus terminal to other things and for the people. Anouther key to really helping Detroit is to get VIA Canadian trains for Toronto to reroute "slightly" to International Customs "IN" Michigan Central Station proper. Windsor can still have a proper downtown stimulating "waterfront" station in the open approach grade decent to the tunnel on their side. With such an arrangement on both sides of the border crossing both Cities would benefit as best as possible, rather then curl up in their respective corners missing more of their potential. In Corktown's, more of Detroits case and Windsor too this would drive renewal
Supported a comment by Peter Dudley on
Michigan Central
6 months ago
Peter Dudley
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal.
In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938.
Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance.
Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station.
The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
For more information, copy-and-paste the attached link (below).
https://www.facebook.com/groups/371958126083
Historically, most MCS employees and intercity rail passengers accessed the landmark via the East Entrance, adjacent to a covered light rail terminal.
In 1914, regional electric interurban service extended from MCS as far as Almont, Ann Arbor, and other southeastern Michigan points. DEPOT LOOP streetcars shuttled constantly between MCS and downtown Detroit until 1938.
Adaptive re-use of the long-gone terminal site as yet-another park ("The Triangle") doesn't make sense. M-1 RAIL should extend its streetcar service along Michigan Avenue, from Campus Martius to the East Entrance.
Another possibility: EXPRESS light-rail service, running alongside the forthcoming grade-separated May Creek Greenway and West Jefferson Avenue, could connect MCS with downtown Detroit via the recently-privatized Joe Louis Arena Garage transit hub, and the adjacent Detroit People Mover (DPM) station.
The north side of the garage was intended to serve as a commuter rail terminal -- the trains never arrived.
For more information, copy-and-paste the attached link (below).
https://www.facebook.com/groups/371958126083
Commented on Michigan Central
6 months ago
BRAVO to Ford & luck w this mostly open Urban Campus ect. Old Michigan Central downstairs should also be Detroit's main RR Station. Michigan's Mainline properly is Chicago to bigger Toronto there at the tunnel and someday with real High Speed trains too. With a single track serving a oneway loop for Michican trains Northwest used in both directions, and/or a transfer between other trains at MC, closest/in downtown RR location easily possible, MC can serve all trains for Detroit and be most successful for Ford's new generations of designers ect. The model is Amtrak's own national operational headquarters upstairs for the much busier highest rated 30th St Station in Philadelphia. The public floor in 30th St provides its own employees with all the public amenities needed and is launching a whole new quadrant of Center City w 7 large new commercial towers in the few years just being the start. Downtown Detroit is finally sice about 1960, poised to do well on a large scale too if it continues to make the right moves! I'm actually working w others to help one of these important things.....
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Supported a comment by David Graff on
Michigan Central
6 months ago
David Graff
better public transit options, with high frequencyh especially rail transit.
better public transit options, with high frequencyh especially rail transit.
Connecting to the Q Line via the old rail car line which was included when the building was opened.