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Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
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1 year, 4 months ago
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Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
There are a lot of comments that mention arts and culture, and affordability. I wholeheartedly agree with them. Here is an idea: provide a FREE space to any person or organization willing to set up an event or "happening". Obviously, some organization should manage the space and allocate it according to some criteria: maximum number of days (3, maybe), non-profit nature of the event, and events chosen for their originality, appeal, etc. The managing organization could get the space rent-free in exchange for managing it and making it available at no cost to applicants at least 150 days a year, for ex.
Supported a comment by Hada Santiago on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Hada Santiago
As a DIY event organizer, it is very hard to find spaces in Toronto to plan any kind of indie events. As a DJ and dancer, this city has long been very hard to sustain people like me. Recently, there was a report released by the city of Toronto: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ec/bgrd/backgroundfile-170527.pdf This above link reads " Emerging Entertainment Areas Outside of the Downtown Core" and is a report to action to help structural challenges that people working in the cultural industries face. This is a city hall initiative. For the project team, please read this document - There is also something similar the is the 'Toronto nightlife action plan' https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2019/ec/bgrd/backgroundfile-134955.pdf Both of these documents cite a lack of space, or barriers that people in these industries face when trying to make cool stuff happen in the city. I strongly, strongly encourage the project team to reach out to these city initiatives considering East Harbour is in many ways aligned with a growing city identity. There are a lot of comments about local businesses and identity and culture in the feedback for this site, and supporting DIY events make it easy for authentic and local entrepreneurs to create unique experiences in a city that larger glossy commercial events cannot mimic. Please be the place to go for DIY events in Toronto, as well as nightlife. Both of these action plans are city of Toronto initiated but please do coordinate with them and learn from them.
As a DIY event organizer, it is very hard to find spaces in Toronto to plan any kind of indie events. As a DJ and dancer, this city has long been very hard to sustain people like me. Recently, there was a report released by the city of Toronto: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ec/bgrd/backgroundfile-170527.pdf This above link reads " Emerging Entertainment Areas Outside of the Downtown Core" and is a report to action to help structural challenges that people working in the cultural industries face. This is a city hall initiative. For the project team, please read this document - There is also something similar the is the 'Toronto nightlife action plan' https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2019/ec/bgrd/backgroundfile-134955.pdf Both of these documents cite a lack of space, or barriers that people in these industries face when trying to make cool stuff happen in the city. I strongly, strongly encourage the project team to reach out to these city initiatives considering East Harbour is in many ways aligned with a growing city identity. There are a lot of comments about local businesses and identity and culture in the feedback for this site, and supporting DIY events make it easy for authentic and local entrepreneurs to create unique experiences in a city that larger glossy commercial events cannot mimic. Please be the place to go for DIY events in Toronto, as well as nightlife. Both of these action plans are city of Toronto initiated but please do coordinate with them and learn from them.
Supported a comment by Brian Hern on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Brian Hern
There’s been quite a lot of concern that this new development is going to feel too corporate and bland. It can be very hard to attract people to visit or stay in a central business district if there is nothing unique or edgy. I encourage you to think outside of the box and get creative with how to make this site a place where people want to stay or visit. Think about and study some of the most visited neighbourhoods in Toronto, like Kensington Market, the distillery, Queen West and learn what makes them so special in order to better design a place that doesnt feel so corporate and glossy.
There’s been quite a lot of concern that this new development is going to feel too corporate and bland. It can be very hard to attract people to visit or stay in a central business district if there is nothing unique or edgy. I encourage you to think outside of the box and get creative with how to make this site a place where people want to stay or visit. Think about and study some of the most visited neighbourhoods in Toronto, like Kensington Market, the distillery, Queen West and learn what makes them so special in order to better design a place that doesnt feel so corporate and glossy.
Supported a comment by Rob Hatton on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Rob Hatton
While these concerns are appropriate, keep in mind that the residential density is not about creating beautiful spaces - it's about giving the developer $5 b worth of density to sell and about $800m worth of profit (yes an $800m gift! Merry Christmas) that can be realized quickly in the condo market - vs the expected slow uptake for commercial space. Getting back a few meeting spaces and park benches is total chump change - even a contribution to the GO station (how much can a GO station without parking cost, really?) is likely to be peanuts in comparison. The negative impact on traffic will outshine any 'mixed use' development benefits.
While these concerns are appropriate, keep in mind that the residential density is not about creating beautiful spaces - it's about giving the developer $5 b worth of density to sell and about $800m worth of profit (yes an $800m gift! Merry Christmas) that can be realized quickly in the condo market - vs the expected slow uptake for commercial space. Getting back a few meeting spaces and park benches is total chump change - even a contribution to the GO station (how much can a GO station without parking cost, really?) is likely to be peanuts in comparison. The negative impact on traffic will outshine any 'mixed use' development benefits.
Supported a comment by jack green on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
jack green
Toronto these days is lacking depth. It appears that city building is centred on developers rather than citizens of the city. It's insular and doesn't help us. Development here, there is... so please make sure focusing on beauty, architecture, culture and people is put primary before any kind of boring chain coffee shop. Let me share a secret, it's not those in the tech industry and financial sectors that make cities alluring. Let's give opportunities to artists who are leaving Toronto to other cities for better opportunities.
Toronto these days is lacking depth. It appears that city building is centred on developers rather than citizens of the city. It's insular and doesn't help us. Development here, there is... so please make sure focusing on beauty, architecture, culture and people is put primary before any kind of boring chain coffee shop. Let me share a secret, it's not those in the tech industry and financial sectors that make cities alluring. Let's give opportunities to artists who are leaving Toronto to other cities for better opportunities.
Supported a comment by Nina R on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Nina R
This might be a weird comment to interpret but many Toronto clubs -especially on King St - fit a similar vernacular. They are all very dressy and buttoned-up with strict dress codes and very expensive prices. It makes partying in Toronto very dull because there are increasingly harder to find entertainment options that are less restrictive and less bottle-service oriented. Look into new nightlife or overall venue options that are more affordable for young adults and more open-minded. Being deliberate about the kinds of experiences you are trying to create in this district will last a really long time, and identity is something that speaks for itself. If you are trying to create new nightlife or cultural options, it cannot be in repetition of what already exists in the city. It has to be unique to create a destination out of East Harbour and how to attract innovative talent and expand the city's footprint. An example would be how the arrival of second city theatre in Toronto brewed so many contemporary Canadian comedy geniuses. There are all of these counter-cultural establishments that give this district such an edge over the uniformity of this city. Many Toronto clubs or cultural institutions that are unique often are the places to breed the next big musician. The arts scene in Toronto needs to be dismantled in order for change to happen. Spaces for alternative & experimental art collectives/spaces are vital.
This might be a weird comment to interpret but many Toronto clubs -especially on King St - fit a similar vernacular. They are all very dressy and buttoned-up with strict dress codes and very expensive prices. It makes partying in Toronto very dull because there are increasingly harder to find entertainment options that are less restrictive and less bottle-service oriented. Look into new nightlife or overall venue options that are more affordable for young adults and more open-minded. Being deliberate about the kinds of experiences you are trying to create in this district will last a really long time, and identity is something that speaks for itself. If you are trying to create new nightlife or cultural options, it cannot be in repetition of what already exists in the city. It has to be unique to create a destination out of East Harbour and how to attract innovative talent and expand the city's footprint. An example would be how the arrival of second city theatre in Toronto brewed so many contemporary Canadian comedy geniuses. There are all of these counter-cultural establishments that give this district such an edge over the uniformity of this city. Many Toronto clubs or cultural institutions that are unique often are the places to breed the next big musician. The arts scene in Toronto needs to be dismantled in order for change to happen. Spaces for alternative & experimental art collectives/spaces are vital.
Supported a comment by Torin Wagner on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Torin Wagner
There seems to be often cultural organisations, artists, artisans and non-profit cultural groups left out of the conversation in city planning. Be sure to survey and include them in this process as it would create a more holistic and collaborative development that could realistically and authentically better impact these communities. The idea of collaborating with local BIAs is along the lines of my thinking as well. Please be in collaborating with or contact with local arts organisations such as "East end arts" which are connected to many other local arts groups close to the future east harbour location. The city of Toronto Music office is also looking to expand music footprint in Toronto as well as a new office being implemented for artist space is in the works. These efforts could actually showcase how community outreach can already start conversations about how major developments don't have to feel disconnected from a new neighbourhood or context and can enrich the development itself. While standing out as a neighbourhood should be encouraged, it's also important to meaningfully reach out to local residents, youth, seniors, professionals and homeless groups. Many people like myself living in the east end will be negatively displaced impacted by the Ontario Line in the interim. I think East Harbour as a destination that benefits local residents, organisations and the broader city can really make up for some loss suffered with any major development and bring us together stronger and united.
There seems to be often cultural organisations, artists, artisans and non-profit cultural groups left out of the conversation in city planning. Be sure to survey and include them in this process as it would create a more holistic and collaborative development that could realistically and authentically better impact these communities. The idea of collaborating with local BIAs is along the lines of my thinking as well. Please be in collaborating with or contact with local arts organisations such as "East end arts" which are connected to many other local arts groups close to the future east harbour location. The city of Toronto Music office is also looking to expand music footprint in Toronto as well as a new office being implemented for artist space is in the works. These efforts could actually showcase how community outreach can already start conversations about how major developments don't have to feel disconnected from a new neighbourhood or context and can enrich the development itself. While standing out as a neighbourhood should be encouraged, it's also important to meaningfully reach out to local residents, youth, seniors, professionals and homeless groups. Many people like myself living in the east end will be negatively displaced impacted by the Ontario Line in the interim. I think East Harbour as a destination that benefits local residents, organisations and the broader city can really make up for some loss suffered with any major development and bring us together stronger and united.
Supported a comment by Alex Lo on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Alex Lo
Adamson is someone you can keep for sure but maybe add a few more architects to the team so that there is a more well-rounded, forward thinking and creative approach to architecture. In a major development like this, I am shocked that there aren't a team of architects from multiple different firms. I am not trying to insult Adamson or relay any disrespect, but I do think we should innovate here.. and just one voice contributing to built form (even if it is a team of architects at Adamson) is not enough for such a development considering so many of their developments look like repetition of each other in London, NYC or Chicago.
Adamson is someone you can keep for sure but maybe add a few more architects to the team so that there is a more well-rounded, forward thinking and creative approach to architecture. In a major development like this, I am shocked that there aren't a team of architects from multiple different firms. I am not trying to insult Adamson or relay any disrespect, but I do think we should innovate here.. and just one voice contributing to built form (even if it is a team of architects at Adamson) is not enough for such a development considering so many of their developments look like repetition of each other in London, NYC or Chicago.
Supported a comment by Alex Lo on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Alex Lo
We deserve better architecture in the city. I am tired of generic blue/green-glass towers that all look identical. Please ensure there is unique cladding, and focus on how towers can look very different from each other. In downtown and Yonge- Eglinton all of the buildings look virtually the same. Please do not repeat this lazy thinking when it comes to design - please hire more diverse architects, don't just use the same one for all of the buildings. See design as something that uplifts us and enhances our sense of place. Visitors will be drawn to a district with out of the box design thinking.
We deserve better architecture in the city. I am tired of generic blue/green-glass towers that all look identical. Please ensure there is unique cladding, and focus on how towers can look very different from each other. In downtown and Yonge- Eglinton all of the buildings look virtually the same. Please do not repeat this lazy thinking when it comes to design - please hire more diverse architects, don't just use the same one for all of the buildings. See design as something that uplifts us and enhances our sense of place. Visitors will be drawn to a district with out of the box design thinking.
Supported a comment by John S on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
John S
Please create more variety in building height and massing - the master plan reads as one massive mass of buildings. Needs more variety to create visual interest in the skyline - perhaps shift densities from some towers to others to create more variability in tower heights.
Please create more variety in building height and massing - the master plan reads as one massive mass of buildings. Needs more variety to create visual interest in the skyline - perhaps shift densities from some towers to others to create more variability in tower heights.
Supported a comment by David Hannah on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
David Hannah
How to prevent East Harbour from becoming another city place residential disaster.
How to prevent East Harbour from becoming another city place residential disaster.
Supported a comment by Shelagh T. on
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1 year, 7 months ago
Shelagh T.
How to prevent another wall of condos being built next to the lakefront.
How to prevent another wall of condos being built next to the lakefront.
Supported a comment by Karen M on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Karen M
What kinds of plans are proposed to ensure that this is an equitable, inclusive space, where Torontonians and visitors aren't excluded / 'priced out' (financially or otherwise), as we've seen in other spaces like Canary Wharf (called out in the consultation presentation as a "success")? Affordable housing is part of the solution, but what other commitments will you make to ensure this is a space for everyone?
What kinds of plans are proposed to ensure that this is an equitable, inclusive space, where Torontonians and visitors aren't excluded / 'priced out' (financially or otherwise), as we've seen in other spaces like Canary Wharf (called out in the consultation presentation as a "success")? Affordable housing is part of the solution, but what other commitments will you make to ensure this is a space for everyone?
Supported a comment by Jonathan Brown Gilbert on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Jonathan Brown Gilbert
Long-term affordability via purpose-built rental housing and housing co-ops.
Long-term affordability via purpose-built rental housing and housing co-ops.
Supported a comment by Rob Hatton on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Rob Hatton
If the site can accommodate an extra 5 or 6 thousand residents (without any planning), it can surely accommodate and easement to put the subway underground at Booth.
If the site can accommodate an extra 5 or 6 thousand residents (without any planning), it can surely accommodate and easement to put the subway underground at Booth.
Supported a comment by Cole J on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Cole J
Beautiful architecture that can be admired and where the bar is set high in built form. No more boxy towers that all look the same, please ensure diversity of material, colours and shapes. Timber is something i’d like to see and low-carbon design but also innovate and seek to bring more curiosity and originality to this part of Toronto. Well-designed spaces improve our mental health, I don’t want to see any more glass (Toronto’s downtown buildings all look the same)
Beautiful architecture that can be admired and where the bar is set high in built form. No more boxy towers that all look the same, please ensure diversity of material, colours and shapes. Timber is something i’d like to see and low-carbon design but also innovate and seek to bring more curiosity and originality to this part of Toronto. Well-designed spaces improve our mental health, I don’t want to see any more glass (Toronto’s downtown buildings all look the same)
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
The fact you don´t respond publicly is not reassuring. I´d be interested in the responses too.
Supported a comment by GERRY BROWN on
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1 year, 7 months ago
GERRY BROWN
1. Are there any changes to the previous Street Network plan. One key part of that plan was to have some of the smaller streets be vehicle-free. Does your reference to "pedestrian-accessible open spaces" include these? There don't seem to be any cycling spaces on Streets A-D. How will you design these streets with a Vision Zero lens and safe spaces for all users? 2. With regards to the Transit Hub does Metrolinx have any estimates of future traffic, especially with regards to the idea of the hub operating as a "Union Station to the East". 3. Is there a plan to encourage transit use prior to the completion of the Ontario Line and the Broadview Streetcar extension or is the development only proceeding after those projects are in place. 4. One of the rationales offered for keeping the Soap Factory in place was the amount of material (eg. concrete and steel) that would be re-used. Do you have any plan to account for the increased GHG emissions that will be generated by building fully new buildings? 5. The Toronto Green Standards Checklist indicates the buildings will meet Tier 1. I didn't see any plan to achieve higher environmental standards beyond the minimum Toronto require, such as LEED? I'm hoping I missed that; if not, that would be very disappointing. 6. Is the only addition affordable housing your $5M contribution to offsite housing?
1. Are there any changes to the previous Street Network plan. One key part of that plan was to have some of the smaller streets be vehicle-free. Does your reference to "pedestrian-accessible open spaces" include these? There don't seem to be any cycling spaces on Streets A-D. How will you design these streets with a Vision Zero lens and safe spaces for all users? 2. With regards to the Transit Hub does Metrolinx have any estimates of future traffic, especially with regards to the idea of the hub operating as a "Union Station to the East". 3. Is there a plan to encourage transit use prior to the completion of the Ontario Line and the Broadview Streetcar extension or is the development only proceeding after those projects are in place. 4. One of the rationales offered for keeping the Soap Factory in place was the amount of material (eg. concrete and steel) that would be re-used. Do you have any plan to account for the increased GHG emissions that will be generated by building fully new buildings? 5. The Toronto Green Standards Checklist indicates the buildings will meet Tier 1. I didn't see any plan to achieve higher environmental standards beyond the minimum Toronto require, such as LEED? I'm hoping I missed that; if not, that would be very disappointing. 6. Is the only addition affordable housing your $5M contribution to offsite housing?
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
I really agree with this person. Pay attention to the architecture. Please no boring glass towers. Use timber (as was previously suggested), use brick, investigate new materials and new technologies to make the space as sustainable and environmentally friendly as possible. Pay attention to who will use the place: it should appeal to a wide range of residents (age groups, family structure, income levels, occupations), which in turn will widen the appeal for visitors. To ensure that artists, small independant businesses, retailers and restaurants have a proeminent place, affordability is going to be key.
Supported a comment by Jason Self on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Jason Self
Ensure the built form respects the vernacular of the immediate area. Don't build generic condos with glass spandral, instead use brick and other 'home' elements. The public realm is key as is a zero carbon footprint
Ensure the built form respects the vernacular of the immediate area. Don't build generic condos with glass spandral, instead use brick and other 'home' elements. The public realm is key as is a zero carbon footprint
Supported a comment by Kay Barley on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Kay Barley
CF - Please, no more repetitive and bland retail, I don't want to see any excessive McDonalds or chain stores. That does not make a district vibrant or create life past 5pm, try to think outside of the box for retail and showcase how a large commercial district doesn't have to feel all that commercial at all. Be a leader here, where Toronto has more local fashion, culture, restaurants and experiences that make us proud and excited to live here. A way to infuse this spirit is to make commercial rents deeply affordable for creative entrepreneurs.
Also a word on the public realm. Please ensure the central square isn't the only focus. A stage and some seating does not feel exciting or world-class to me. Think of vibrant cities around the world like Times Square, shibuya crossing in Tokyo, Covent Garden or Piccadilly Circus in London, these squares have a POP element with cool lighting where people are attracted to coming at nighttime to see neon lights, vibrant screens and glowing public art. Try to make something signature for Toronto, the kind of thing that is original but imposes a signature mark on our overall urban appeal. Perhaps the alleyway retail streets can have these neon lighting in signage, or string lighting to make them feel warm and appealing to walk around at. I would like to feel inspired to come to East Harbour - Simply a few glass towers and a square is just not enough. Be bold here
CF - Please, no more repetitive and bland retail, I don't want to see any excessive McDonalds or chain stores. That does not make a district vibrant or create life past 5pm, try to think outside of the box for retail and showcase how a large commercial district doesn't have to feel all that commercial at all. Be a leader here, where Toronto has more local fashion, culture, restaurants and experiences that make us proud and excited to live here. A way to infuse this spirit is to make commercial rents deeply affordable for creative entrepreneurs.
Also a word on the public realm. Please ensure the central square isn't the only focus. A stage and some seating does not feel exciting or world-class to me. Think of vibrant cities around the world like Times Square, shibuya crossing in Tokyo, Covent Garden or Piccadilly Circus in London, these squares have a POP element with cool lighting where people are attracted to coming at nighttime to see neon lights, vibrant screens and glowing public art. Try to make something signature for Toronto, the kind of thing that is original but imposes a signature mark on our overall urban appeal. Perhaps the alleyway retail streets can have these neon lighting in signage, or string lighting to make them feel warm and appealing to walk around at. I would like to feel inspired to come to East Harbour - Simply a few glass towers and a square is just not enough. Be bold here
Supported a comment by Jacob G-S on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Jacob G-S
There are not enough homes in Toronto so I would like as many homes as possible to be built at this site. More homes will help to lower housing prices which are at crisis levels. Homes in the East Harcour will also have a lower carbon footprint because of their proximity to transit and the greater efficiency of heating and cooling non-detached houses. I hope that this site will be built in a way that prioritizes other forms of transit above cars. This will lead to lower pedestrian fatalities and lower carbon emissions.
There are not enough homes in Toronto so I would like as many homes as possible to be built at this site. More homes will help to lower housing prices which are at crisis levels. Homes in the East Harcour will also have a lower carbon footprint because of their proximity to transit and the greater efficiency of heating and cooling non-detached houses. I hope that this site will be built in a way that prioritizes other forms of transit above cars. This will lead to lower pedestrian fatalities and lower carbon emissions.
Supported a comment by mike gohl on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
mike gohl
I would also like to see this district be a world-leader in technology and sustainability. Quayside had that same spirit, the willing to go above and beyond to make a lasting impact for Toronto, but failed due to privacy concerns. East Harbour needs to be innovative and 'harbour' new and future-oriented modes of getting around, technologies and innovative entertainment.
I would also like to see this district be a world-leader in technology and sustainability. Quayside had that same spirit, the willing to go above and beyond to make a lasting impact for Toronto, but failed due to privacy concerns. East Harbour needs to be innovative and 'harbour' new and future-oriented modes of getting around, technologies and innovative entertainment.
Supported a comment by Vera Kreuz on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Vera Kreuz
Ensure there are new Shopping options that current retail streets do not offer. Think of this site as a mix, but there needs to be a uniqueness so that East Harbour isn't just a Yorkville 2.0 (think Kensington Market eclectics with vintage clothing, unique boutiques and culture). Harajuku in Tokyo is a good example because it caters to youth and is funky and unique. East Harbour should have an identity outside of what we are used to in most Toronto retail streets. It should appeal to all ages, not just a bland and repetitive Eaton centre style shopping district. East Harbour should showcase unique locally owned boutiques and create a culture where people will want to shop in places where they know and are proud of the fact it is one of a kind.
Ensure there are new Shopping options that current retail streets do not offer. Think of this site as a mix, but there needs to be a uniqueness so that East Harbour isn't just a Yorkville 2.0 (think Kensington Market eclectics with vintage clothing, unique boutiques and culture). Harajuku in Tokyo is a good example because it caters to youth and is funky and unique. East Harbour should have an identity outside of what we are used to in most Toronto retail streets. It should appeal to all ages, not just a bland and repetitive Eaton centre style shopping district. East Harbour should showcase unique locally owned boutiques and create a culture where people will want to shop in places where they know and are proud of the fact it is one of a kind.
Supported a comment by Sandra Kiloughby on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Sandra Kiloughby
also focus on creating streets prioritising people, not for cars. It is time to take car-dependency North American mindset away from Toronto.
also focus on creating streets prioritising people, not for cars. It is time to take car-dependency North American mindset away from Toronto.
Supported a comment by Sandra Kiloughby on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Sandra Kiloughby
Do what you can to inspire animation on buildings such as lighting displays at night as well as neon lights alongside retail streets, something that will POP out to locals and visitors when looking for a place to explore. A way to bring in life here is to create a visual gateway that people would be drawn to from afar. In the same way that the CN tower lights up, it would be good to see similar activation here and other original and unique ideas to draw people here while walking on the waterfront etc. It be nice to see nightlife options and a culture where people don't commute home straight after work. Bring soul and entertainment back here to Toronto post-covid.
Do what you can to inspire animation on buildings such as lighting displays at night as well as neon lights alongside retail streets, something that will POP out to locals and visitors when looking for a place to explore. A way to bring in life here is to create a visual gateway that people would be drawn to from afar. In the same way that the CN tower lights up, it would be good to see similar activation here and other original and unique ideas to draw people here while walking on the waterfront etc. It be nice to see nightlife options and a culture where people don't commute home straight after work. Bring soul and entertainment back here to Toronto post-covid.
Supported a comment by David V on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
David V
Yes and be bold with architecture! no more cookie-cutter buildings!
Yes and be bold with architecture! no more cookie-cutter buildings!
Supported a comment by Jess Foran on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Jess Foran
I am worried considering Adamson's portfolio that we will see a lot of the same kinds of buildings like we have seen in Canary Wharf and Hudson yards where all of the buildings are glass but slightly different in shape. Please ensure that are international design competitions for the buildings — If all of the buildings are typical what we have seen in the past, and if they all 'blend in' to downtown, it will not speak to the longevity of this site in coming decades. consider design as heritage, something that will speak to future generations and something that is of high importance.
I am worried considering Adamson's portfolio that we will see a lot of the same kinds of buildings like we have seen in Canary Wharf and Hudson yards where all of the buildings are glass but slightly different in shape. Please ensure that are international design competitions for the buildings — If all of the buildings are typical what we have seen in the past, and if they all 'blend in' to downtown, it will not speak to the longevity of this site in coming decades. consider design as heritage, something that will speak to future generations and something that is of high importance.
Supported a comment by Emilie Decouer on
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1 year, 7 months ago
Emilie Decouer
People who work in east harbour should be able to afford to live there. Try to go above and beyond with affordable units, we are in a housing crisis.
People who work in east harbour should be able to afford to live there. Try to go above and beyond with affordable units, we are in a housing crisis.
Supported a comment by David V on
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1 year, 7 months ago
David V
How to make this site arts and culture destination rather than just employment. Should come alive at night, as well as day. Year-round events, festivals, night life, music and multi-season events are key to full-year place to experience.
How to make this site arts and culture destination rather than just employment. Should come alive at night, as well as day. Year-round events, festivals, night life, music and multi-season events are key to full-year place to experience.
Supported a comment by Mark McCarthy on
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1 year, 7 months ago
Mark McCarthy
The pedestrian experience. This is a large part of what would make the area pleasant to be in. A functional and human-friendly neighbourhood would benefit from the following: - Ample public seating. - Ground-level retail (including patios where applicable). - Streets that are not solely car-oriented. - Parks/parkettes which can function as a space to rest & meet, not just the tiny unused "privately-owned public space" parks we see outside many new condo constructions. - Waste & recycling bins. - Sidewalks with the space for wheelchairs and for crowds on busy days. - Public restrooms - Bicycle parking
The pedestrian experience. This is a large part of what would make the area pleasant to be in. A functional and human-friendly neighbourhood would benefit from the following: - Ample public seating. - Ground-level retail (including patios where applicable). - Streets that are not solely car-oriented. - Parks/parkettes which can function as a space to rest & meet, not just the tiny unused "privately-owned public space" parks we see outside many new condo constructions. - Waste & recycling bins. - Sidewalks with the space for wheelchairs and for crowds on busy days. - Public restrooms - Bicycle parking
Supported a comment by Cairns Deleway on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Cairns Deleway
I completely agree with you, Joe. Montreal has the upper hand when it comes to entertainment, culture and fun. Streets in Montreal that are mostly pedestrian scaled accommodate circus arts, performers, all types of flexible arts/culture installations. Toronto has a business flair but not really a culture flair aside from a few small districts. East Harbour is probably our last shot to reclaim this, considering it is one of the last largest undeveloped parcels of land.
If Toronto cannot compete culturally with other major players, it will not be a desirable place to live, visit or work. Being Canada's most visited destination, we have to expand on this but also remember how residents are used to venues being replaced by condos.
I am worried that any entertainment venues will appeal strictly to the working-class, wealthier office folks in a similar fashion to Canary Wharf. I hope this site will engage & attract youth, as well as the wider arts community.
I completely agree with you, Joe. Montreal has the upper hand when it comes to entertainment, culture and fun. Streets in Montreal that are mostly pedestrian scaled accommodate circus arts, performers, all types of flexible arts/culture installations. Toronto has a business flair but not really a culture flair aside from a few small districts. East Harbour is probably our last shot to reclaim this, considering it is one of the last largest undeveloped parcels of land.
If Toronto cannot compete culturally with other major players, it will not be a desirable place to live, visit or work. Being Canada's most visited destination, we have to expand on this but also remember how residents are used to venues being replaced by condos.
I am worried that any entertainment venues will appeal strictly to the working-class, wealthier office folks in a similar fashion to Canary Wharf. I hope this site will engage & attract youth, as well as the wider arts community.
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1 year, 7 months ago
Joe Senc
I hate to keep beating a dead horse but look to Montreal on how they bring community, business & after 5pm crowds together, we need walkable streets no cars, with cafes, restaurants, retail & entertainment. Some form of access to the river would nice if possible, use Chicago as the example. You have a blank canvas here use it. People in Toronto continually mention on how great & fun Montreal is well here is our chance lets get it right.
I hate to keep beating a dead horse but look to Montreal on how they bring community, business & after 5pm crowds together, we need walkable streets no cars, with cafes, restaurants, retail & entertainment. Some form of access to the river would nice if possible, use Chicago as the example. You have a blank canvas here use it. People in Toronto continually mention on how great & fun Montreal is well here is our chance lets get it right.
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1 year, 7 months ago
Cairns Deleway
Architecture: It would be great to see a core of skyscrapers that look visually contrasting to the bland glass condos and towers we already see downtown. Future-oriented and ambitious design has an ability to attract people to a place alone. Torontonians need a place they can look at and say "This is proudly, uniquely ours." All of the massing of the buildings look so uniform and boxy, please consider different colours, materials, shapes and perhaps a couple signature tall skyscrapers to make something appealing for Toronto's east-end skyline. Please also consider timber and sustainable options too, position Canada as a leading mass-timber design leader as talked about at the Toronto mass timber institute @ UofT. -Lastly, I want to talk about culture. Culture is a 'feeling in the air', that no bureaucratic document can recreate. It would be a major disappointment walking through the streets of East Harbour and not feeling inspired. Cities like Tokyo and Seoul have vibrant neon lighting and signs that echo a kind of uniqueness and boldness. The reality is, people in the cultural industries are leaving Toronto because it is no longer affordable to have a studio space as well as rents. Arts and Culture are the reasons why we visit cities: Paris, London, New York etc. The most touristic and vibrant neighbourhoods have a thriving arts/cultural scene — Not everyone works in a traditional office setting: i.e. People in music, design, art,, they need studios.
Architecture: It would be great to see a core of skyscrapers that look visually contrasting to the bland glass condos and towers we already see downtown. Future-oriented and ambitious design has an ability to attract people to a place alone. Torontonians need a place they can look at and say "This is proudly, uniquely ours." All of the massing of the buildings look so uniform and boxy, please consider different colours, materials, shapes and perhaps a couple signature tall skyscrapers to make something appealing for Toronto's east-end skyline. Please also consider timber and sustainable options too, position Canada as a leading mass-timber design leader as talked about at the Toronto mass timber institute @ UofT. -Lastly, I want to talk about culture. Culture is a 'feeling in the air', that no bureaucratic document can recreate. It would be a major disappointment walking through the streets of East Harbour and not feeling inspired. Cities like Tokyo and Seoul have vibrant neon lighting and signs that echo a kind of uniqueness and boldness. The reality is, people in the cultural industries are leaving Toronto because it is no longer affordable to have a studio space as well as rents. Arts and Culture are the reasons why we visit cities: Paris, London, New York etc. The most touristic and vibrant neighbourhoods have a thriving arts/cultural scene — Not everyone works in a traditional office setting: i.e. People in music, design, art,, they need studios.
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1 year, 7 months ago
Cairns Deleway
Nightlife. Young people in Toronto want more options that don't close so early. A way to keep East Harbour afloat past 5pm is to bring in a wide range of bars, clubs and cultural options that go through the night. Knowing Torontonians, I know noise is going to be a concern, so look at ways venues can reduce noise through insulation or certain design elements. We have to remember we are in a large city, a noise is inevitable. We have lost over a dozen music venues because of the pandemic, it is at a dire situation for us in the music/entertainment industry. The cultural industries are the hardest hit industry and it expected to take the longest to recover. Ensure East Harbour can accommodate a large number of these types of establishments to position Toronto as a competitive place to 'have fun'. Unfortunately, Montreal is the cultural capital of Canada... but East Harbour should seek to challenge this. Retail should be unique, focusing on shops that you wouldn't normally find in other retail districts downtown. Perhaps local designers, or international designers looking to open a staple Canadian location. Please ensure Live music and live performance is engrained in East Harbour's DNA, as well as give opportunities to artists/buskers being pushed out of Toronto.
Nightlife. Young people in Toronto want more options that don't close so early. A way to keep East Harbour afloat past 5pm is to bring in a wide range of bars, clubs and cultural options that go through the night. Knowing Torontonians, I know noise is going to be a concern, so look at ways venues can reduce noise through insulation or certain design elements. We have to remember we are in a large city, a noise is inevitable. We have lost over a dozen music venues because of the pandemic, it is at a dire situation for us in the music/entertainment industry. The cultural industries are the hardest hit industry and it expected to take the longest to recover. Ensure East Harbour can accommodate a large number of these types of establishments to position Toronto as a competitive place to 'have fun'. Unfortunately, Montreal is the cultural capital of Canada... but East Harbour should seek to challenge this. Retail should be unique, focusing on shops that you wouldn't normally find in other retail districts downtown. Perhaps local designers, or international designers looking to open a staple Canadian location. Please ensure Live music and live performance is engrained in East Harbour's DNA, as well as give opportunities to artists/buskers being pushed out of Toronto.
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1 year, 7 months ago
Claire McLeod
A mix of small locally owned businesses are key!
A mix of small locally owned businesses are key!
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1 year, 7 months ago
Oliver Turner
Parks, restaurants, cafes and a grocery store will all attract people to the area and inject life and local energy into the new development. Do not repeat city place, where uninteresting, chain stores and fast food did not create a culture people wanted to stay in (initially they all headed north to Queen/King).
Parks, restaurants, cafes and a grocery store will all attract people to the area and inject life and local energy into the new development. Do not repeat city place, where uninteresting, chain stores and fast food did not create a culture people wanted to stay in (initially they all headed north to Queen/King).
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This area is very suitable for development, but what you propose is a forest of tall buildings. It doesn´t look promising or inviting at all. How are you going to create a homey feeling and ensure it fits in the neighborhood?
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