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Commented on Engage East Harbour
11 months, 1 week ago
blame our provincial government, which has taken usurped planning powers from the city near any transit expansion.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
11 months, 3 weeks ago
Good luck. Province under Ford did a secret deal - no info on what we get, or he gets.
Supported a comment by Paul Klaassen on
Engage East Harbour
11 months, 3 weeks ago
Paul Klaassen
I'm frankly a little surprised that First Gulf or Great Gulf (whichever it was) was able to negotiate with the city and province for the billions in infrastructure changes based on the jobs that would come from the commercial development, then sell the property to a developer who changes the plan without those concessions needing to be renegotiated. Furthermore, I'm disappointed that we are planning to build at the heights being planned. The neighbourhood has condominium projects capping out at around 15 stories and this will dwarf all of those, changing the character in an unpleasing way. I can only hope that there is consideration given to adding value to the neighbourhood by providing spaces appropriate to businesses like grocery stores, dry cleaners, restaurants, cafes, medical and dental offices, bicycle stores and other such day to day necessities.
I'm frankly a little surprised that First Gulf or Great Gulf (whichever it was) was able to negotiate with the city and province for the billions in infrastructure changes based on the jobs that would come from the commercial development, then sell the property to a developer who changes the plan without those concessions needing to be renegotiated. Furthermore, I'm disappointed that we are planning to build at the heights being planned. The neighbourhood has condominium projects capping out at around 15 stories and this will dwarf all of those, changing the character in an unpleasing way. I can only hope that there is consideration given to adding value to the neighbourhood by providing spaces appropriate to businesses like grocery stores, dry cleaners, restaurants, cafes, medical and dental offices, bicycle stores and other such day to day necessities.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 2 months ago
Good luck with that. They are going 10 - 20 stories higher to squeeze in the extra residential units. Maybe there will be red brick planters.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 3 months ago
Cassidy.. I get you. When theEast Harbour transit hub (your tax dollars) was planned it was for union station east - a financial district hub serving land zoned for employment-only by the city. There are 300 acres of residential available one block south. Adding residential to east harbour (cad Fairview still says they will build the full office too) is an $800m profit gift to the developer - they paid for office-only land. And it is an added density burden on the community (traffic, etc). What do we get in return? Ask mr. Ford but I bet he gets paid first. I agree it will likely be sterile, because that what business does.
Supported a comment by Paul Y on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Paul Y
It seems Mayor Tory is silent on this and is by default, siding with the Premier. If no one speaks up, there will be no planning - no public benefits, no affordability, minimal parks, no schools, etc. City staff and our elected reps have been pushed aside by the Province. Who is doing the negotiating for community and City benefits? Sadly, this is an developer-planned MZO according to staff, see pg 2 https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf
It seems Mayor Tory is silent on this and is by default, siding with the Premier. If no one speaks up, there will be no planning - no public benefits, no affordability, minimal parks, no schools, etc. City staff and our elected reps have been pushed aside by the Province. Who is doing the negotiating for community and City benefits? Sadly, this is an developer-planned MZO according to staff, see pg 2 https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf
Supported a comment by Paul Y on
Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
Paul Y
800 comments on Parks? Trees? Culture? Maybe . . . as a way to market this plan. It is not endorsed by our elected representatives or City planning staff. It will go forward as a Ministerial Zoning Order (see staff report - top of pg 2). LINK: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf The province is giving the developer a massive re-zoning and we/the City are left out. The consultants and developer are here short-term. We can take up valuable time asking about public space, affrdble housing, parks, trees and culture however, without the City planning process there are no agreements and no reasons I can see why a developer (partnered with the Premier) would spend on these extras. Cadillac Fairview (owned by the Teachers Pension Fund btw) will maximize profit for share holders regardless of what we add to this list of opinions. We have no power. And yes we have a huge affordability crisis in Toronto but from my experience living here since mid 80's simply building more condos has never resulted in affordability. Public funding (from development charges etc.) and/or development agreements have. Where I live, a family shelter was integrated into a condo because the Councillor and staff worked with the developer and made it a condition for approval. Will this developer funded consulting team figure out how to ensure the developer provides what the City planners and Elected reps would have demanded? Don't think so. Look at who has the power.
800 comments on Parks? Trees? Culture? Maybe . . . as a way to market this plan. It is not endorsed by our elected representatives or City planning staff. It will go forward as a Ministerial Zoning Order (see staff report - top of pg 2). LINK: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-168262.pdf The province is giving the developer a massive re-zoning and we/the City are left out. The consultants and developer are here short-term. We can take up valuable time asking about public space, affrdble housing, parks, trees and culture however, without the City planning process there are no agreements and no reasons I can see why a developer (partnered with the Premier) would spend on these extras. Cadillac Fairview (owned by the Teachers Pension Fund btw) will maximize profit for share holders regardless of what we add to this list of opinions. We have no power. And yes we have a huge affordability crisis in Toronto but from my experience living here since mid 80's simply building more condos has never resulted in affordability. Public funding (from development charges etc.) and/or development agreements have. Where I live, a family shelter was integrated into a condo because the Councillor and staff worked with the developer and made it a condition for approval. Will this developer funded consulting team figure out how to ensure the developer provides what the City planners and Elected reps would have demanded? Don't think so. Look at who has the power.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 4 months ago
You have all gone for the bait and switch, discussing final design issues which will be ignored, while the addition of res to this development serves one purpose - to confer to the developer a gift worth close to $1 billion in future profits, without any disclosure of what the public gets in return, and without any regard for planning issues - especially traffic associated with 6,000 new residents (one new intersection at Broadview and Lakeshore and improvements at Don Roadway, but no new highway off ramps to the east, so nothing to cope with 6,000 residents and the 'promise' of 10 million square feet of office). Meanwhile the existing neighbourhood and City taxpayers will bear the brunt of this and the above ground subway, which facilitates a little extra space on the site for these residential units. Hired hacks are used to poison public meetings with comments like "don't worry about those entitled existing local residents". Who to consider then? The wealthy developer interests who live elsewhere? The only real issue here is why is the Ford Government dictating this neighbourhood design? Is the City government of Toronto irrelevant? Cornwall has more power.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 5 months ago
While these concerns are appropriate, keep in mind that the residential density is not about creating beautiful spaces - it's about giving the developer $5 b worth of density to sell and about $800m worth of profit (yes an $800m gift! Merry Christmas) that can be realized quickly in the condo market - vs the expected slow uptake for commercial space. Getting back a few meeting spaces and park benches is total chump change - even a contribution to the GO station (how much can a GO station without parking cost, really?) is likely to be peanuts in comparison. The negative impact on traffic will outshine any 'mixed use' development benefits.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 7 months ago
Someone who lives close by
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 10 months ago
If the site can accommodate an extra 5 or 6 thousand residents (without any planning), it can surely accommodate and easement to put the subway underground at Booth.
Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 10 months ago
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Commented on Engage East Harbour
1 year, 10 months ago
Generally interested in the project